ugaarguy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:08 pmIf you dig through Sal's posts, I'm pretty sure he's indicated that variants of handle colors, blade steels, and even blade grinds are a possibility with the Sage 5 FRN LW. I get the impression that even though the Sage series is about showcasing locks, the Sage 5 FRN LW may get spun off into its own model.
's in 10 different steelsI have to disagree. Just imho the Sage 5 is "better than what he´s asking for"BornIn1500 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:50 pmI agree. The Sage 5 is almost exactly what he's asking for.
Oh yeah, that´s for sure, I guess half of threads are about some steel and handle combos :D. I don´t think this tread is cringy at all, but for me the Sage 5 is co close for being a comp lock Native that making Native with comp lock is kinda irrelevent.ladybug93 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:52 pmi don’t understand why people get so mad about threads like this. there are thousands of threads on this forum about how this knife would be perfect with this steel or this lock or this handle material. models are discontinued because people wait for something better than yesterday’s super steel. there’s even people that chime in against the compression lock (an innovative design unique to spyderco) every chance they get to beg for more backlocks.
I agree. I’m not saying replace the back lock, or even go through with the proposals i made. I just think that there is not the “plethora” of compression locks that some people think there are. The shaman is amazing. The little native is too small for me. I was super excited about it but it felt to small and the blade was too light to have the action I want. I also hate the para 3 thumb ramp.5-by-5 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:35 amOkay I'll change my response even though I hate ignorant cringy threads.
Even though Spyderco offers a plethora of options in locks scales and steels. Knives are not like Lego blocks. A lock can't be popped out and replaced with another.
Changing the Native from a linerless backlock to a compression liner lock takes a 100% remake of the knife. Its literally a completely new knife that looks like a Native.
The lil native and the Shamin are just that. Totally new knives that look like the Native.
Because I want to try different steels in a blade shape and lock that I actually like. Original thought was to just sprint run steels on the sage 5 but that doesn’t look like it will happen.
That sounds like a great plan. Fingers crossed. I think it meets the demand while keeping cost down (and interest high) without cannibalizing the market for the para 3. I forget who pointed out that aspect of the decision but it was a great point.ugaarguy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:08 pmIf you dig through Sal's posts, I'm pretty sure he's indicated that variants of handle colors, blade steels, and even blade grinds are a possibility with the Sage 5 FRN LW. I get the impression that even though the Sage series is about showcasing locks, the Sage 5 FRN LW may get spun off into its own model.
YES!!! That is literally the first sentence of the original postWartstein wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:29 amI have to disagree. Just imho the Sage 5 is "better than what he´s asking for"BornIn1500 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:50 pmI agree. The Sage 5 is almost exactly what he's asking for.
The Sage gives you about 10 % more actual cutting edge (a very relevant pro for me), slightly thinner blade stock and ThaiChung FRN pattern (both a bit of a pro for me) and a deep carry wire clip (rather a con for me, but ok-ish in such a small knife).
Personally, if I were into comp.lock knives and the Sage 5 and Native 5 both had a comp.lock I´d prefer the Sage any day of the week.
As listed in my post just above yours (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85590&p=1386553#p1386545), I personally think there actually ARE relevant differences...Pancake wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:35 amOh yeah, that´s for sure, I guess half of threads are about some steel and handle combos :D. I don´t think this tread is cringy at all, but for me the Sage 5 is co close for being a comp lock Native that making Native with comp lock is kinda irrelevent.
But, I am sure there are a lot of people that want comp lock on every second model, and I have nothing against them. Comp lock is very strong when open, easy to use, flippy action, Spyderco ´s own desing.
....but personaly I am in backlock-everything brigade :D :D :D
)aaronkb wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:54 amI’m shocked how many people are vehemently opposed to this every time it comes up.
Nobody’s trying to discontinue your beloved native 5 backlock. I admit that there are a lot of positives about backlocks. But for those of us who don’t like them, a native 5 version with a comp lock would be awesome. I’ve been wanting this for ages. I strongly dislike using backlocks, and I love the Shaman design and really want a mid-size version.
Btw comp locks ARE lefty-friendly. I can do most of mine left-handed pretty easily and I’m not even left-handed.
It seems like people are saying a Native 5 comp lock essentially already exists. Have you tried the Sage? The designs are very similar.aaronkb wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:54 amI’m shocked how many people are vehemently opposed to this every time it comes up.
Nobody’s trying to discontinue your beloved native 5 backlock. I admit that there are a lot of positives about backlocks. But for those of us who don’t like them, a native 5 version with a comp lock would be awesome. I’ve been wanting this for ages. I strongly dislike using backlocks, and I love the Shaman design and really want a mid-size version.
You’re far too sensible for this worldWartstein wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:03 amaaronkb wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:54 amI’m shocked how many people are vehemently opposed to this every time it comes up.
Nobody’s trying to discontinue your beloved native 5 backlock. I admit that there are a lot of positives about backlocks. But for those of us who don’t like them, a native 5 version with a comp lock would be awesome. I’ve been wanting this for ages. I strongly dislike using backlocks, and I love the Shaman design and really want a mid-size version.
Btw comp locks ARE lefty-friendly. I can do most of mine left-handed pretty easily and I’m not even left-handed.
As said already, I´d love to see the complete Native family come in BOTH comp lock and backlock versions (just like the Lil Native already does) so we all can get what we prefer
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I love the native family for the straight line from handle to blade... sage 5 doesn’t have that. Looks like there’s a pointy bit where I like to put my thumb. Also can’t stand the look of laminated carbon fiberBornIn1500 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:59 amIt seems like people are saying a Native 5 comp lock essentially already exists. Have you tried the Sage? The designs are very similar.aaronkb wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:54 amI’m shocked how many people are vehemently opposed to this every time it comes up.
Nobody’s trying to discontinue your beloved native 5 backlock. I admit that there are a lot of positives about backlocks. But for those of us who don’t like them, a native 5 version with a comp lock would be awesome. I’ve been wanting this for ages. I strongly dislike using backlocks, and I love the Shaman design and really want a mid-size version.
sal wrote:Knife afi's are pretty far out, steel junky's more so, but "edge junky's" are just nuts. :p
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: Also, do you think a kangaroo would eat a bowl of spagetti with sauce if someone offered it to them?
Off topic, but what do you like to see on Lil Shaman specs wise?bearfacedkiller wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:38 amI am not even slightly interested but if we decide to make a mini shaman then I am quite interested. It is the fat rounded handle that interests me and I would still like to see it as a backlock. A comp lock Lil’ Shaman would still be a must have.
Merry Christmas!
if they made the (preferably dlc) lil native comp lock in it's current form with lc200n (kind of a mini caribbean) i'd just have to apologize to my wife after the payment cleared.
