Sage 5.2

[kodai78]

You would prefer a Button Compression Lock on Sage? To an integral?

sal

My very favorite lock (kind of like picking a favorite child, very difficult) is the button comp lock on my Smock. I would love to see a Sage with either the button comp lock or a CBBL like the one on the Manix.

[Mtnblades]

I’m interested to see what an integral compression lock would feel/function like but I think a button would be a good next lock. To me the strength of the como lock is that it can be used one handed and keep the fingers clear of blade path. I’m trying to imagine how an integral would function without requiring you to wrap your fingers.

I’d be more interested in a sage 5 with upgraded steel. I get that the sage series is about locks. What I really want is a native 5 with a compression lock in maxamet, M390, cruwear, xhp-189, or lc200n.

[timlara]

FWIW, I'm with ugaarguy - a Sage with integral compression lock would be just about my ideal knife. (The only knife I carry more than the Sage is my UKPK.)

My original integral lock ATR is one of the knives I regret selling the most. It really was a cool lock.

[Larry_Mott]

You would prefer a Button Compression Lock on Sage? To an integral?

sal

Personally I'd prefer to move along with Sage 6 and try a altogether new (to me) lock. Or integral (If you mean like OG A.T.R. and Ti Salsa)
However i am one person with one opinion... :)
Happy holidays by the way to you and family!

[abbazaba]

I've been voting for a button lock sage for years, but the smock lock would be even better, especially with these awesome bushing pivots.

However, I love the OP's idea if that is possible.

[ugaarguy]

Personally I'd prefer to move along with Sage 6 and try a altogether new (to me) lock. Or integral (If you mean like OG A.T.R. and Ti Salsa)
However i am one person with one opinion... :)
Happy holidays by the way to you and family!

Yes, I'm hoping for an integral comp lock like the first A.T.R. and Salsa, just in a Ti handled Sage form. Hence my Sage 5.2 model number suggestion :) . Also, having missed out on most of the previous Sages, I'd probably still buy one with some new lock when the Sage 6 and further versions come out.

I would prefer the button compression lock, with a titanium button(for the user to add cool anodized options), but an integral compression would be good too.

I might be interested in button comp lock on the Sage 5 FRN / LW model. Since a button comp lock has liners anyway, use FRN as the base scale and some low cost material for the button. Then let Flytanium and the other aftermarket companies supply premium scales and buttons for folks who want to mod or customize.

I have been dreaming of that Ti Integral Compression Caribbean idea you were kicking around. Any chance?

I would love to see contoured Ti with the same grip pattern the original has, milled into it. Everything else is perfect, the size, the steel l, the salt, EVERYTHING!

I'd be almost as happy with that as the Sage 5.2 concept I suggested. If Ti integral comp lock Caribbean has a better chance of going into production, and Sal has already been kicking that idea around, I'll happily support that model.

I prefer the compression to the button for simplicity's sake.

I'm glad you and at least a few others agree with me on that. :D

[hovan2yourknives]

Button compression lock sounds great but I’d also love to eventually see you guys do an “axis” lock since the patent has expired.

[djinnzfree]

It been released (lightweight version)? Did anybody from Canada have ones? Where you buy it?

[jimmd]

You would prefer a Button Compression Lock on Sage? To an integral?

sal

Sal, an integral would be interesting, but I’d love to see a button lock. If the button compression lock can’t be worked out, it would be great to see a Sage 6 with a plunge lock, a traditional button lock.

[sal]

Hi Jmmd,

We've had a "plunge" button lock in-the-works on order for several years. We are reaching that point where out maker is very busy and priorities for models are scheduled and rescheduled often. We squeezed the FRN Compression Lock Sage into the Sage series more for users than collectors and for the makers ability to make more pieces. Once the tooling is complete on an FRN model, it requires less labor, thus less cost to make the model. There are a few locks in-the-works and now it's decisions that determine schedule.

sal

[curlyhairedboy]

An integral comp lock would be great so long as the interfaces are steel.

[sal]

The latest prototype we made had a steel interface.

sal

[curlyhairedboy]

The latest prototype we made had a steel interface.

sal

Wonderful to hear! :D

[knivesandbooks]

I've been over the compression lock in my collection. Just kinda fell out for me the last 6 or 7 months. But, I do want to try the button compression lock. I love button locks and I think a button with the compression lock behind it instead of a plunge lock would solve some issues plunge locks may have. I wasn't into the Smock design so I passed but I love the Sage design and would purchase that. Especially if it wasn't peel ply cf or frn. But honestly I would buy it if it were peel ply. Might grumble but would do it.

I think doing a button compression lock with aluminum scales would be cool. Like an ode to the button lock autos that 9/10 times are aluminum handled.

[jimmd]

Hi Jmmd,

We've had a "plunge" button lock in-the-works on order for several years. We are reaching that point where out maker is very busy and priorities for models are scheduled and rescheduled often. We squeezed the FRN Compression Lock Sage into the Sage series more for users than collectors and for the makers ability to make more pieces. Once the tooling is complete on an FRN model, it requires less labor, thus less cost to make the model. There are a few locks in-the-works and now it's decisions that determine schedule.

sal

Thanks for the response, Sal! As you can see here, there's some enthusiasm for a button lock. The button-actuated compression lock seems a great mechanism, but I presume it would be difficult to fit into the Sage without substantially altering the grip or the blade profile. Looking forward to see what lock you choose next!

[ugaarguy]

Hi Ugaarguy,

I'm not opposed to an integral Compression Lock. We've made a few prototype as well as a production piece. We also have a few locks that we've not yet built. Our Taichung guy is pretty busy these days, so everything takes longer to get into motion. I don't think we'll do much with Vanax at this time. It's very expensive, plus the extra taxes and it's seems to be difficult t get.

sal

Sal, just as an FYI, a fairly new, smaller company is marketing a 3" Vanax blade, Ti frame lock. Pricing is comparable to the last MSRP on the Sage 2. I've ordered one. I'll let you know if Vanax holds up to my hopes, based on the analyses I've read. I understand that availability of Vanax for Spyderco production volumes is probably going to be a challenge unless (hopefully just until) the knife market drives up demand enough that Uddeholm ramps up production of it. I'm still hopeful that one day a Sage Ti with an RIL or ICL (Integral Compression Lock) and Vanax blade can become a reality. In the meantime, I'm very happy with the Sage 5 LW that you had the Taichung guy squeeze in. Now I have a user to go with my Sage 2 that's become a bit collectible.

[5-by-5]

Yes, yes, yes! Less comp lock! More button lock!

I add that contorting my fingers and pinch gripping the scales to put my fat finger in the small slot of the comp lock is super insecure.

[koenigsegg]

I would prefer integral. The button compression lock leaves the annoying dead spot on the blade. I had a smock but I felt like the handle was too far from the cutting edge. I know I can choke up but why not just make a choil then?

[Wartstein]

I would prefer integral. The button compression lock leaves the annoying dead spot on the blade. I had a smock but I felt like the handle was too far from the cutting edge. I know I can choke up but why not just make a choil then?

But there IS an integral lock Sage already -?! (Sage 2)

[yablanowitz]

I might as well chime in here. I would buy a button lock Sage for use, whether it was a button Compression lock or a plunger lock. Integral comp lock would only get my money as a collector piece and would likely never see the light of day, much like my Sage 2. I dislike having moving parts in direct contact with my hands, and I think it makes the knife look half-finished. Just my personal opinion, of course.

The only Smock I've looked at was a factory second Chris picked up at the last sale, but that iteration of the compression lock has a lot going for it. The "left-hand" Para2 is the only Comp lock knife I carry right-handed.