Slipit as a base for testing new steels
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Slipit as a base for testing new steels
It’s no secret that I like the Urban LW as a vehicle fir testing new steels in everyday life. It is very size efficient and pocket friendly. The walk is not great, though, being too hard to open.
I did not care for the UKPK because the earlier ones I handled did not have a nice spring tension. That has changed. People on this forum told me the new ones are about right. Well, this new BD1N version is about right. This would also make a great platform for testing new steels for actual daily use. The price is good, the action is good, and it’s Golden made.
( I think the Urban would benefit by Golden manufacture)
I’d like to see more such slipits with new steels to test, including the new UKPK.
I did not care for the UKPK because the earlier ones I handled did not have a nice spring tension. That has changed. People on this forum told me the new ones are about right. Well, this new BD1N version is about right. This would also make a great platform for testing new steels for actual daily use. The price is good, the action is good, and it’s Golden made.
( I think the Urban would benefit by Golden manufacture)
I’d like to see more such slipits with new steels to test, including the new UKPK.
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
I definitely enjoyed the Urban LW (k390), but I'd agree that the Golden-made current UKPK is a superior platform. It's big enough to apply some force with the knife and it has much better action.
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
I'd be all for this in either model. Though not a slipit, but exactly why I grabbed a Calypso JR/SuperBlue from National Knives this past weekend when they magically showed up on their site. I was excited to try this steel, especially in a cheaper model. You really can't go wrong with an Urban or UKPK!
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
I think the UKPK should be used for USA steels and the Urban for European steels. Less shipping should help keep costs down.
Now we just need a nice Japanese slipppie for Japanese steels. :)
Now we just need a nice Japanese slipppie for Japanese steels. :)
Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
I second all of the above. It would be cool to have a JPK. It would be a UKPK with a dab of wasabi. Perhaps it could be called the Sushi or the Sashimi as it would be designed to highlight the steel in its "raw" form.
Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
I’ve been in this choir since the mule program came to an end.
I didn’t buy mules (Spydie folders are what brought me here) but I did pay close attention to reactions of those who did. Early warning primes the pump.
Spyderco’s slipits, apart from being a relatively inexpensive way to introduce new steels, are jurisdiction-friendlier knives that punch far above their weight.
I like Tom’s idea of European Urbans, American UKPKs, and Japanese ???, so as to feature the steels of their regions. How about the Calypso Jr. as the basis for the Japanese slipit?
But, please, can we update the pivot screw on each model so it can be tightened from both sides? Pretty please?
I didn’t buy mules (Spydie folders are what brought me here) but I did pay close attention to reactions of those who did. Early warning primes the pump.
Spyderco’s slipits, apart from being a relatively inexpensive way to introduce new steels, are jurisdiction-friendlier knives that punch far above their weight.
I like Tom’s idea of European Urbans, American UKPKs, and Japanese ???, so as to feature the steels of their regions. How about the Calypso Jr. as the basis for the Japanese slipit?
But, please, can we update the pivot screw on each model so it can be tightened from both sides? Pretty please?
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
I like the idea of a folding mule (slippy so everyone can enjoy them) but I would definitely want at least the size of the UKPK. Maybe they can improve the spring?
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
The spring is vastly superior in the new knife versus its predecessor.
I would not want a knife larger than the UKPK as I would not nor could not carry it daily.
I like that these knives are inexpensive. If I really like a steel tested in one of these I can buy a more expensive knife. Also, slip joints allow most of us to participate.
I would not want a knife larger than the UKPK as I would not nor could not carry it daily.
I like that these knives are inexpensive. If I really like a steel tested in one of these I can buy a more expensive knife. Also, slip joints allow most of us to participate.
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
A slipit makes sense considering that not everyone can have a locking knife everywhere. Gives more people a chance to check out interesting steels
Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
I like the Slipit idea and roughly the size of a UKPK, maybe smaller, but I think a folding mule should be an all new model. It should be like the Chaparral and Sage where something remains constant, maybe the scales. I’m thinking something similar to a Lil Native LW shape, Slipit with a variety of steels.
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
Steel testing on rope and etc it great, but most of us cut zip ties, open cans, open plastic packaging, cut food, cut string, hit the edge on plates, cut saplings, cut cane for fishing poles, clean game, carve wooden instruments, and more such things. This gives us practical daily use knives of practical size.
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
Hi Doc, What you are asking is a lot more complicated than you might imagine.
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
I know I’m not in the business, but I am not suggesting a new knife. Just an existing one with Sprint Run steel choices like we have gotten with the Urban. I like what has been done there.
I would not mind at all seeing more Urbans in new steels and would like to see the UKPK done in new steels. These are affordable and practical.
I wonder if there is a way to poll or to test the waters some more! What I think is the Urban Sprints sold well, or seem to have. Perhaps the Caly/Delica sized UKPK would as well?
Of course we’ve had threads on slipit mules and folding mules before.
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
Doc I'm not at all trying to be disagreeable with you but I think Spyderco has this one right to begin with. I think that using the C-36 Military and the Para2 are both perfect for testing the market with new blade steels.
And the same could be said about those Mule models as well. For the foreseeable future I'll probably continue using the MILITARY or PARA2 models as my main EDCs as well. Unless they ever come across with a C-60 Ayoob in a Supersteel.
I also think that Sprint Runs are a great way to test drive new blade steels as well.
And the same could be said about those Mule models as well. For the foreseeable future I'll probably continue using the MILITARY or PARA2 models as my main EDCs as well. Unless they ever come across with a C-60 Ayoob in a Supersteel.
I also think that Sprint Runs are a great way to test drive new blade steels as well.
Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
One requirement that you are perhaps not thinking of is that in order to get a new steel to test,besides sometimes begging, we have to purchase a minimum quantity. Usually 1,000 to 2,000 lbs. That would be an awful lot of UK's or Urbans to try to move with an experimental steel.
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
With that in mind, Sal, do you think it might be feasible to do something similar to the collector's program?sal wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:03 amOne requirement that you are perhaps not thinking of is that in order to get a new steel to test,besides sometimes begging, we have to purchase a minimum quantity. Usually 1,000 to 2,000 lbs. That would be an awful lot of UK's or Urbans to try to move with an experimental steel.
sal
I'm thinking if we get 100 people to sign up to buy whatever UKpk's in a variety of steel, then maybe one can come out every 6-8 months and then meet the steel minimum orders?
EDC Rotation: PITS, Damasteel Urban, Shaman, Ikuchi, Amalgam, CruCarta Shaman, Sage 5 LW, Serrated Caribbean Sheepsfoot CQI, XHP Shaman, M4/Micarta Shaman, 15v Shaman
Fixed Blades: Proficient, Magnacut Mule
Special and Sentimental: Southard, Squarehead LW, Ouroboros, Calendar Para 3 LW, 40th Anniversary Native, Ti Native, Calendar Watu, Tanto PM2
Would like to own again: CQI Caribbean Sheepsfoot PE, Watu
Wishlist: Magnacut, Shaman Sprints!
Fixed Blades: Proficient, Magnacut Mule
Special and Sentimental: Southard, Squarehead LW, Ouroboros, Calendar Para 3 LW, 40th Anniversary Native, Ti Native, Calendar Watu, Tanto PM2
Would like to own again: CQI Caribbean Sheepsfoot PE, Watu
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
I think you need waaaaay more than 100 people to cover 1000-2000 pounds of steel.curlyhairedboy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:51 amWith that in mind, Sal, do you think it might be feasible to do something similar to the collector's program?sal wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:03 amOne requirement that you are perhaps not thinking of is that in order to get a new steel to test,besides sometimes begging, we have to purchase a minimum quantity. Usually 1,000 to 2,000 lbs. That would be an awful lot of UK's or Urbans to try to move with an experimental steel.
sal
I'm thinking if we get 100 people to sign up to buy whatever UKpk's in a variety of steel, then maybe one can come out every 6-8 months and then meet the steel minimum orders?
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Re: Slipit as a base for testing new steels
How many units is that?