Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
Yes please!
That is precisely what I want, I'll take at least 2.
That is precisely what I want, I'll take at least 2.
Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
BUMP
I'd be all in on a Li'l Matriarch SE in H1 (preferably with a blacked out TiCN option). I suppose it should have skeletonized liners for additional rigidity in keeping with the "defensive knife" ethos of the original Matriarch, but I'd be okay with a linerless design similar to the Tasman Salt 2 as well (especially if it means reducing production cost).
I'd be all in on a Li'l Matriarch SE in H1 (preferably with a blacked out TiCN option). I suppose it should have skeletonized liners for additional rigidity in keeping with the "defensive knife" ethos of the original Matriarch, but I'd be okay with a linerless design similar to the Tasman Salt 2 as well (especially if it means reducing production cost).
Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
I recently bought a PE Lil'Matriarch and it has proven to be an excellent EDC capable of a variety of tasks. BLL (Bottom Line Last): I WOULD purchase a pair. :D :D
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
I had a pe lil' matriarch for a while before losing it. It was my favorite blade at the time and was always in my pocket. I have a serrated one now and I have to say, it's gorram awesome. It finds it's way into my pocket probably more than any knife (other than my keychain jester). The lil' matriarch in the salt platform would probably be my only knife with a back up.
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
I still want one (or a few)!
Haven't sharpened this guy in about a month and it's still sharp even after breaking down at least a hundred boxes.
Haven't sharpened this guy in about a month and it's still sharp even after breaking down at least a hundred boxes.
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
I like it! I've been thinking of a similar set-up.
That lil' matriarch look beautiful Turbo!
That lil' matriarch look beautiful Turbo!
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
BUMP!!!
I'll take 'em in any steel...just bring 'em back! :spyder:
I'll take 'em in any steel...just bring 'em back! :spyder:
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
I have a matriarch. I have a serrated H1 pacific salt that I have been carrying more often than anything else lately. I would be interested in a serrated lil matriarch. As to steel. I’d leave it to the expert but I have been happy with my Serrated H1. The ease of maintenance on the Pac Salt is a big reason why it’s getting so much pocket time. I personally would probably like the option for an Emerson opener like on the matriarch.
Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
+1bbturbodad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:55 pmBUMP!!!
I'll take 'em in any steel...just bring 'em back! :spyder:
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
I found the Lil Matriarch / Cricket style 'shallow reverse S' to be way more useful then the regular hawkbill.PeaceInOurTime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:25 pmI may have missed the discussion, but does the reverse "s" provide any particular benefit over a normal hawkbill?
With a regular Hawk, almost all cuts are initiated with the point. And theres little ability to do 'slicing' on a flat surface with anything but the tip.
With the Shallow S, you can start the cut with the tip - but you can also use the pronounced belly of the S to do the slice as well. Especially with Serrated, this really opens up the whole blade length for utility work.
And for defensive work, unlike the Matriarch/Civilian, the Lil Matriarch has a shallow enough curve on the tip that it can also be used for thrusting.
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
Yes yes yes!
Lc200n! Do it now!
Lc200n! Do it now!
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
Seems like this blade profile would greatly benefit from a very tough steel like LC200N, H1, or AEB-L. I have no need for one, but I am interested to see if this goes anywhere.
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
Are you thinking of doing either yet? This is on my short list. An Endela sized version could be cool too as the Endela is my preferred carry. SE + jimping + boye dent would make this a fantastic little knife.
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
i've said for the last couple of years that the matriarch 2 wave would be a perfect knife for h1.
self defense knives need to always be ready. that means low maintenance and in a spot that is repeatable no matter what you're wearing. for me, that means iwb because not all shorts have pockets that will support a good sized knife. iwb means it's more prone to get sweaty and h1 would work well for that. on you all the time means even in water, which h1 is designed for.
these reverse s blades typically come with warnings about tip stability. what other steel has the proven toughness we've seen from h1? h1 has also proven to be great when serrated, which is another desired design element for this type of blade. the design would greatly benefit from h1.
h1 is already at seki along with all the other parts needed to make the matriarch 2 a salt series knife. all that's needed is to stamp out the matriarch 2 blade from h1 and put it in a pacific salt 2 handle and viola, you've got yourself a self defense blade that will never rust, is easy to sharpen, has the added benefit of extreme toughness, and will always be ready if needed.
sorry if this is derailing... i know the thread is about a lil matriarch. i think the same points apply though.
self defense knives need to always be ready. that means low maintenance and in a spot that is repeatable no matter what you're wearing. for me, that means iwb because not all shorts have pockets that will support a good sized knife. iwb means it's more prone to get sweaty and h1 would work well for that. on you all the time means even in water, which h1 is designed for.
these reverse s blades typically come with warnings about tip stability. what other steel has the proven toughness we've seen from h1? h1 has also proven to be great when serrated, which is another desired design element for this type of blade. the design would greatly benefit from h1.
h1 is already at seki along with all the other parts needed to make the matriarch 2 a salt series knife. all that's needed is to stamp out the matriarch 2 blade from h1 and put it in a pacific salt 2 handle and viola, you've got yourself a self defense blade that will never rust, is easy to sharpen, has the added benefit of extreme toughness, and will always be ready if needed.
sorry if this is derailing... i know the thread is about a lil matriarch. i think the same points apply though.
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
mark greenman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:17 amI found the Lil Matriarch / Cricket style 'shallow reverse S' to be way more useful then the regular hawkbill.PeaceInOurTime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:25 pmI may have missed the discussion, but does the reverse "s" provide any particular benefit over a normal hawkbill?
With a regular Hawk, almost all cuts are initiated with the point. And theres little ability to do 'slicing' on a flat surface with anything but the tip.
With the Shallow S, you can start the cut with the tip - but you can also use the pronounced belly of the S to do the slice as well. Especially with Serrated, this really opens up the whole blade length for utility work.
And for defensive work, unlike the Matriarch/Civilian, the Lil Matriarch has a shallow enough curve on the tip that it can also be used for thrusting.
Thanks :)
It does seem more versatile than a typical hawkbill.
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
I've always wanted one. I would get one if it was Salty.
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
Endela size might be perfect.
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
I completely agree. Carrying a regular Hawkbill feels like I'm walking around with a gardening tool and for most general purpose tasks leave most of the blade unused. A shallow Reverse S is much more versatile.mark greenman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:17 amI found the Lil Matriarch / Cricket style 'shallow reverse S' to be way more useful then the regular hawkbill.PeaceInOurTime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:25 pmI may have missed the discussion, but does the reverse "s" provide any particular benefit over a normal hawkbill?
With a regular Hawk, almost all cuts are initiated with the point. And theres little ability to do 'slicing' on a flat surface with anything but the tip.
With the Shallow S, you can start the cut with the tip - but you can also use the pronounced belly of the S to do the slice as well. Especially with Serrated, this really opens up the whole blade length for utility work.
And for defensive work, unlike the Matriarch/Civilian, the Lil Matriarch has a shallow enough curve on the tip that it can also be used for thrusting.
And yes we still need a Salt Lil Matriarch so I can keep using it for fishing without having to worry about wiping it down when I'm done with lunch. :p
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Re: Who else wants a SE Lil'Matriarch Salt in H1 ?!
I do feel that an S-curve blade like the Li’l Matriarch would be more useful (for me) than a hawkbill, even though I like hawkbills. A Delica-sized one would probably be near-perfect to try out the pattern. I did have an ATS-55 SE Cricket about 20 years ago, but it never felt ergonomic in my hand.
I have used a recurved blade pattern with the exact opposite ‘S’-shaped edge than the Matriarch/Cricket, on my old Benchmade 710 knives. It would be interesting to see how a Li’l Matriarch would fare in utility uses.
Jim
I have used a recurved blade pattern with the exact opposite ‘S’-shaped edge than the Matriarch/Cricket, on my old Benchmade 710 knives. It would be interesting to see how a Li’l Matriarch would fare in utility uses.
Jim
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