NickShabazz wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:54 am
Elmax got a bad reputation early on in its time in the community due to some issues with a sub-par heat treat from another company, so I've heard a few makers say explicitly that they've steered clear of it from a public perception standpoint. This is silly, but given how much of 'super steel' is marketing anyways, I kind of see their point.
The biggest problem is that it was hyped by folks as the finest structured, toughest PM stainless.
Recent micrographs and charpy tests done by Larrin revealed it is not. Seems 3rd gen PM is hype if folks are thinking it's finer. Bohler Uddeholm does make a clean product that I do enjoy, but buying from them purly from the myth that 3rd gen PM itself is finer is bogus.
Another reason Elmax is overrated is that that Vanadium is not doing as much as people think. Elmax is mostly chromium carbide due to the C and cr balance and the higher volume of chromium soaks up most of the carbon AND the vanadium for CrV7C3 carbides and only a very small fraction is left for badass vanadium carbides.
So the behaviour folks observe about it sharpening better etc has nothing to do with being finer structured but softer structured.
Seems folks are drawing conclusions based on it being easier to sharpen and shape a chromium carbide rich apex rather than a vanadium carbide rich one. If using better techniques and abrasive it becomes irrelevant though.
Elmax is a good steel, I have some pieces but there is a lot of hype surrounding it since there are myths that are repeated over and over about it.
The new S45VN will be a superior product.
I've been enjoying the heat treatment, processing and edge performance more than Elmax.