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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:03 am

AwayFromMySpydieHole wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:37 pm
Does anyone know if this straight spine stretch is going to be a production piece? I’m not super fond of the white, but I’d buy one a few of these in a heartbeat if they were regular production.


ZDP and green?
K390 and any color at all?
VG10 ?

I’d love to see this become regular production.

I am afraid it will be...
Why "afraid"? Cause as cool the SS Stretch is (I have one), I still love the unique blade shape of the original Stretch and fear it will actually be replaced by the straight spine version. I hope both blade styles will stay, but am pretty sure that a straight spine version will sell a lot better...

Anyway, the good thing really is that the straight spine version finally seems to bring more people trying the Stretch and experiencing its "magic" :)
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Shoop » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:32 am

You know that Sal is watching this thread, and the original Stretch blade is his baby, and one that I believe, while quite polarizing, has a following, I’m sure a fan. While the straight spine is cool, it is kind of boring, and nowhere near as interesting to look at as the original. Just carried my G-10 (ZDP) yesterday... I just love that knife.

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby jdw » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:14 am

I received my HAP40 Stretch 1 and it is every bit as incredible as I remember. JMO, but Sal can change the design to meet market changes and I think that I understand the reasoning, but he just can't improve his original design.
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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:01 am

jdw wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:14 am
I received my HAP40 Stretch 1 and it is every bit as incredible as I remember. JMO, but Sal can change the design to meet market changes and I think that I understand the reasoning, but he just can't improve his original design.
Glad you got it! :)
They won´t be around forever I guess, and as we both said earlier in this thread: The combination of this design and the HAP 40 steel is probably as close to perfection as it gets.
Though I carry my VG 10 Stretch 1 more often, I love my HAP 40 one even more.
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby sal » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:13 am

Hi Jdw,

The Stretch 1 was; 1) a bit too small for a large hand to hold the knife without using the finger choil, and 2) the finger choil was not deep enough to serve the function I wanted. Those two design features were, in my opinion, improved on the Stretch 2. It required new tooling, which was expensive, but I felt that the "2" version served the market better, was worth the cost ( to me ) and will permit the model to be around for a longer period of time.

The straight spine Stretch 2 served, in my opinion, a more general market for 1) appearance, which many hold as a high value, and 2) the sharper point which many have asked for. The original Stretch was focused more for the hunter as a blade for skinning, and the narrower blade of the "1" & "2" permitted more easily a change of direction while cutting something like cardboard.

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby steelcity16 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:38 am

Maybe a Stretch 1 sprint in Cruwear is in order?? Homage to the original in an upgraded steel.
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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:44 am

sal wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:13 am
Hi Jdw,

The Stretch 1 was; 1) a bit too small for a large hand to hold the knife without using the finger choil, and 2) the finger choil was not deep enough to serve the function I wanted. Those two design features were, in my opinion, improved on the Stretch 2. It required new tooling, which was expensive, but I felt that the "2" version served the market better, was worth the cost ( to me ) and will permit the model to be around for a longer period of time.

The straight spine Stretch 2 served, in my opinion, a more general market for 1) appearance, which many hold as a high value, and 2) the sharper point which many have asked for. The original Stretch was focused more for the hunter as a blade for skinning, and the narrower blade of the "1" & "2" permitted more easily a change of direction while cutting something like cardboard.

sal

Imho it´s absolutely true that the ergos of the Stretch 2 are even better than the already great ones of the Stretch 1.
Just discovered that again with my Straight Spine Stretch. Now I definitely want both ("1" and "2") in my rotation... the "2" for the best ergos, the "1" for a lot of edge in a small package

Sal, as cool as the straight spine version is, I hope it will not replace the original "hunter" blade style, which I personally like even better.
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby jdw » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:53 am

sal wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:13 am
Hi Jdw,

The Stretch 1 was; 1) a bit too small for a large hand to hold the knife without using the finger choil, and 2) the finger choil was not deep enough to serve the function I wanted. Those two design features were, in my opinion, improved on the Stretch 2. It required new tooling, which was expensive, but I felt that the "2" version served the market better, was worth the cost ( to me ) and will permit the model to be around for a longer period of time.

The straight spine Stretch 2 served, in my opinion, a more general market for 1) appearance, which many hold as a high value, and 2) the sharper point which many have asked for. The original Stretch was focused more for the hunter as a blade for skinning, and the narrower blade of the "1" & "2" permitted more easily a change of direction while cutting something like cardboard.

sal

As always, that makes a lot of good sense. Thanks for the kind reply!
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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby dan31 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:46 pm

The stretch 1 HAP40 is in and it feels fantastic. Every time I looked at the pics it never grabbed me. Now that I can hold it in the hand it feels like it was made just for me. I have medium size hands. The blade has a nice thin grind. It is a wonderful design!

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby murphjd25 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:58 pm

Got my straight spine stretch today. Still not sure what I think.
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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby cycleguy » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:41 pm

One should spend time with a knife before rendering judgement. Out of the box opinions are usual honeymoon responses. Don't forget to follow up once you've figured it out.

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Capt'n Boatsalot » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:15 pm

Josh, I'm with you. Mine arrived today too, and I'm not sure what to think. The similarities to the PM2 (albeit as a backlock) are compelling. I sold my previous Stretch 1 FRN. But this one is definitely interesting to me. So we'll see.

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby murphjd25 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:38 pm

Capt'n Boatsalot wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:15 pm
Josh, I'm with you. Mine arrived today too, and I'm not sure what to think. The similarities to the PM2 (albeit as a backlock) are compelling. I sold my previous Stretch 1 FRN. But this one is definitely interesting to me. So we'll see.

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I can tell you I like it a lot better then my Stretch 1. Feels a lot better in my hand now, with the subtle changes Sal made. It’s a fantastic knife and I love the design, I’m just still trying to figure out if I’ll finally get over the FRN and enjoy an FRN knife. It’s going to work with me for a while so I’ll let ya know what I think I’m a couple weeks.
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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Enactive » Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:20 pm

murphjd25 wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:38 pm
Capt'n Boatsalot wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:15 pm
Josh, I'm with you. Mine arrived today too, and I'm not sure what to think. The similarities to the PM2 (albeit as a backlock) are compelling. I sold my previous Stretch 1 FRN. But this one is definitely interesting to me. So we'll see.
I can tell you I like it a lot better then my Stretch 1. Feels a lot better in my hand now, with the subtle changes Sal made. It’s a fantastic knife and I love the design, I’m just still trying to figure out if I’ll finally get over the FRN and enjoy an FRN knife. It’s going to work with me for a while so I’ll let ya know what I think I’m a couple weeks.
Curious to hear your user impressions after a couple weeks. FRN isn't my favorite handle material either, but I do have a couple FRN handled knives that are among my favorite knives anyhow (Native Salt and V Toku Stretch).

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby acer » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:22 am

What a great photo, a brace of true Sal Spyderco’s . This one ant going to be a White Elephant. ⚔️

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby kennethsime » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:56 am

Capt'n Boatsalot wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:15 pm
Josh, I'm with you. Mine arrived today too, and I'm not sure what to think. The similarities to the PM2 (albeit as a backlock) are compelling. I sold my previous Stretch 1 FRN. But this one is definitely interesting to me. So we'll see.

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My two favorite knives in one picture (ok, the Para 3 is growing on me though).

The remarkable similarity to the Stretch was actually my main motivation to pick up a PM2.
C90GRE Stretch 2 ZDP-189 British Racing Green
C28GRE2 Dragonfly 2 ZDP-189 British Racing Green
C12BK2W Matriarch 2 VG-10 Emerson Open
C81G2 Para Military 2 S30V
C81GPRGR2 Para Military 2 K390 Ranger Green
C223GPRGR Para 3 K390 Ranger Green
C90FPIV2 Stretch 2 Straight Spine, VG-10 Rit Dye'd Dark Apple Green

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby benisben25 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:39 pm

Just ordered mine off of KC for $50! Merry Christmas to me, can’t wait for it to arrive. :)

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Archimedes » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:46 pm

benisben25 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:39 pm
Just ordered mine off of KC for $50! Merry Christmas to me, can’t wait for it to arrive. :)
What where? 50 dollars? Post a link. I will buy 4.

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Spydergirl88 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:00 pm

Archimedes wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:46 pm
benisben25 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:39 pm
Just ordered mine off of KC for $50! Merry Christmas to me, can’t wait for it to arrive. :)
What where? 50 dollars? Post a link. I will buy 4.
Probably used knife points or gift card lol still $94 on their site
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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby benisben25 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:05 pm

Spydergirl88 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:00 pm
Archimedes wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:46 pm
benisben25 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:39 pm
Just ordered mine off of KC for $50! Merry Christmas to me, can’t wait for it to arrive. :)
What where? 50 dollars? Post a link. I will buy 4.
Probably used knife points or gift card lol still $94 on their site
Lol, correct.


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