SE Shaman or Caribbean?

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SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby SF Native » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:51 pm

Ok, crucarta didn’t happen but was thinking I should try the Shaman. Sure, there are other sprints and exclusives coming but why not try the serrated version? It would make a good yin to the yang of a future sprint, right?
But if I’m going to go with a nice serrated blade, shouldn’t I just get the Caribbean?
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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby ladybug93 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:57 pm

i have a bias against the shaman, so i’d say sheepsfoot caribbean if you were looking for a se blade. sheepsfoot for use as a rescue tool as well as utility blade.

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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby BLM » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:00 pm

I would say if you want just a serrated Caribbean the shaman in my opinion is better without bug that’s just me

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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby VooDooChild » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:14 pm

That really is a tough one. I think the shaman is a better design but the caribbean is really good and is a salt. I have also been thinking lately that I wish I had gotten my sheepsfoot caribbean in se instead of pe.

How badly do you need a salt? After this I think it depends on which blade shape for the caribbean you want. If its se leaf shape caribbean vs se leaf/spear shaman. Then I would say shaman. If its se sheepsfoot caribbean vs se shaman then I say flip a coin.
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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby Sumdumguy » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:40 pm

The Caribbean beats the Shaman in every aspect.

Can't go wrong with a Caribbean in any configuration.

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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby steelcity16 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:44 pm

Get a Caribbean if you can get over those scales. It's the only thing holding me back. There will be more Micarta Shamans, more Cruwear Shamans, etc.
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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby Monty » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:52 pm

I have both and like them both. You get more cutting edge with the Caribbean...that's a big plus for the weight. I'd say if you need corrosion resistance, get the Caribbean, if you like choils, get the Shaman. Do buy $4 of Rit dye if you get the Caribbean, it's much more pleasing without the bumblebee look.

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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby wrdwrght » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:32 pm

I have both. They are two of my top 5 Sal designs. A challenging environment favors the Caribbean. Otherwise, either is fine for folder work, and it all boils down to what pleases your hand and eye.
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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby Enactive » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:41 pm

I think it largely comes down to whether you want a 50/50 choil or more cutting edge? Do you ever want to carry tip down?

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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby Evil D » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:08 am

I love both but I have to go with the Caribbean. Both are very good at what they do but I have a couple preferences that sway me towards the Caribbean..

1) Choil vs no choil. I do like the way the Shaman feels ON the choil, but it doesn't feel quite as natural behind the choil for me so I can't see myself using it that way so the idea of multiple grip options is lost on me. Because I'd just assume use the choil as my standard grip, I'd rather the grip were 100% on the handle and the blade gain cutting edge.

2) Edge to handle closeness. Despite the fact that I'd use the choil on the Shaman as my standard grip, which puts my finger right next to the edge, I prefer having a bit of handle between my finger and the material I'm cutting. The Caribbean grip creates a nice guard/guide for material to slide along when making deep cuts. On the Shaman that contact area is my finger which isn't ideal.

3) Edge length. It isn't a lot but every bit counts. Since I don't really have a need for the choil, it's wasted space. The fact that I get Military blade length in a Para 2 sized package is a big win for the Caribbean.


Now, the Shaman does have two things I really wish the Caribbean had, like a more round handle and no thumb ramp. Those are the first two changes I'd make to the Caribbean if I had the power to do so.
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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby T-1000 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:30 am

I sold my PE shaman and got the SE shaman and I freakin love it. To me the serrations on this knife just take it over the top in terms of performance, and the plain edge just doesn’t take full advantage of the potential of the design. I really feel like the se shaman is one of if not THE most capable Spyderco out there. But it’s not popular it seems so better get one while you can.
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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby Dazen » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:06 am

Both, just decide which one to buy first!

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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby anycal » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:39 pm

I don't have either, but held them both at SFO, and the Shaman on one other separate occasion.

Independent of the edge type, two things I remember specifically based on my brief encounter. Even with the the extra weight, the Shaman felt smaller than I expected. On the other hand, the Caribbean felt and carried slimmer than what the specs on paper indicated.

Between the two, I thought I would own the Caribbean first... until all the Shaman Micarta was introduced... which I had no luck getting. Sitting them both out for now.
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Re: SE Shaman or Caribbean?

Postby Bill1170 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:19 pm

Caribbean because no choil, longer edge.


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