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List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby archangel » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:00 am

I hope the title is quite clear. What are knife steels that Spyderco has not yet used for knives that went into their production for sales purposes (Sal's magical pockets excluded ;) ). Let's compile one list, cause I don't think I've seen one here.

Let's try not to discuss pros and cons of any steel and all that comes with it in here - start individual threads if they don't yet exist.

"Knife steel" means any steel or metal / metal alloy available in mass production that is substantially suitable for knife making purposes. Let's not list anything that really isn't ever be used, for any particular reason (e.g. Gold ;) ). Also no need to list anything that once was used but has been replaced for good (e.g. ATS-34 etc) - look into the future. :)

If you know one that has more than one brand name, list all you know.

I have a bad memory for names, so I can start the list with just a few from recent threads (not sure, maybe some of these are already identical in composition) in post #2.
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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby archangel » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:00 am

Vanax +
S45VN ++
Vanadis 4 V4E
Vanadis 8
Vancron SC
Rex121
Rex54
Rex M42 (Crucible) // Micro Melt M42 (Carpenter)
Rex T15
Sleipner
15V ++
S125V
HAP72
SRS-15
S390 Microclean
M398
K490
PD1

++ indicates that it's pretty sure that steel will be introduced by Spyderco.
+ means that Sal is looking into it, maybe even testing it, but probably not yet decided if we'll get it or not.

There have been more that were already proposed by you guys, but that *I* have never heard of / seen being discussed with some intensity here in this forum. I'm not going to list these "automatically". Don't be offended please. If you suggested one that I haven't listed here, but you have a strong feeling that it should (i may just be unaware), mention them again. Also if someone else proposed them.
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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby Pelagic » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:17 am

The number of steels is endless...

What I'd rather know is exactly all exotic steels used for in-house creations and for friends, like the s125v military (I think 2 were made, and Dick Barber of Crucible has one?).

Edit: not trying to attempt to hijack the thread, but your request begs for a virtually endless answer.
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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby VooDooChild » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:21 am

Sm100
Nitrobe 77
Dendritic cobalt
Stellite
Talonite

Not 100 percent positive but pretty sure.
There is going to be a ton of steels and metal alloys that could be on this list. So I guess you mean the ones that would be suitable or within reason to use.

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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby archangel » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:45 am

Pelagic wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:17 am
not trying to attempt to hijack the thread, but your request begs for a virtually endless answer.

Duly noted. How about this? Only suggest steels that have already been proposed here in this forum / that have their own thread maybe. Oh and you could add a comment that Sal chimed in and confirmed that something is in the works, or that at least he left us thinking that Spyderco is seriously considering using that steel.
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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby archangel » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:48 am

VooDooChild wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:21 am
There is going to be a ton of steels and metal alloys that could be on this list. So I guess you mean the ones that would be suitable or within reason to use.

Exactly. Steels that really might have a future with Spyderco, may it be just for a sprint run or flash batch. Where Sal and his gang said they were interested / looking into it for real (but that's no must).
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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby bearfacedkiller » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:35 am

I want to see

S390
Hap72
CPM T15
O7
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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby bearfacedkiller » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:38 am

Pelagic wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:17 am
The number of steels is endless...

What I'd rather know is exactly all exotic steels used for in-house creations and for friends, like the s125v military (I think 2 were made, and Dick Barber of Crucible has one?).

Edit: not trying to attempt to hijack the thread, but your request begs for a virtually endless answer.
I thought that there were three S150V Militaries made but maybe they were S125V. Maybe Sal can clarify?
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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby steelcity16 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:30 am

The ones I am most interested in seeing next are

Vanadis 4 Extra (V4E) - could maybe be used in Endura, Delica and other Seki models since Bohler steels are showing up in this models

Vanax for some salt models (Vanax Native Salt?)

SRS-15 (only if solid unlaminated blade) in Seki flagship models

Sleipner Micarta Shaman? :)

3V with Delta heat treat -> Delta 3V Micarta Shaman?? :D

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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby JuPaul » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:48 am

There's been requests for 15V lately.
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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby SteveMidwest » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:00 am

archangel wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:00 am
Vanax
S45VN
Vanadis 8
Vancrom SC
Rex121
Rex M42 (Crucible) // Micro Melt M42 (Carpenter)

I'll bite on your post! :D

I'm sure liking your list here too, archangel. Some fantastic choices there!

I am about 3/4 of the way through my busiest time of the year right now. So my dabbling in knife making, is playing second fiddle at the moment. But, once things slow down some for me. I'm diving into Rex 54 next, and I am hoping that Sal is thinking about it as well.

Spyderco uses Rex 45 now, and I love it! And, I'm going crazy for a Manix 2 with it.
I have made a couple of knives in M42 already, and really love it as well.
I have Maxamet and Rex 121 knives now, and to be honest. Those are some pretty extreme steels, and do have their disadvantages in working with them.

So to my line of thinking, and after having given the steel composition charts a long hard look this Summer (I have about a dozen printed out, and posted on my office walls:). For me here next, and considering that Spyderco already does Rex 45. The next logical step, in my mind. For Spyderco and myself. Is Rex 54. It being locally sourced is nice too, and that has its own advantages. Unlike the choices of Vanax, Vanadis 8, and Vancron SC (You spelled 'Vancron' wrong;)

So what do others in this thread, think of this choice? I know that personally. I am going to put my time, money, and effort into it.
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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby archangel » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:02 am

bearfacedkiller wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:35 am
I want to see

S390
Hap72
CPM T15
O7

Except for Hap72, were any of them discussed in the forum? I don't remember these names. Also true for VooDooChild's proposals.
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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby SteveMidwest » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:07 am

bearfacedkiller wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:35 am
I want to see

S390
Hap72
CPM T15
O7

CPM Rex T15, S390 Microclean, and HAP 72. Are definitely on my shortlist as well, bearfacedkiller! ;)
Fantastic choices.

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Postby VooDooChild » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:32 am

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Except for Hap72, were any of them discussed in the forum? I don't remember these names. Also true for VooDooChild's proposals.
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My last 3 listed are all just some different sort of cobalt alloy. I mentioned dendritic cobalt because its what boye knives uses, and spyderco uses the boye dent.

There has been atleast 1 thread on sm100 and one on nitrobe 77 on this forum. Both were very short. Sm100 is just a different version of nitinol so at this point its outclassed by alot of these other suggestions, and arguably wouldnt have been good.
I think nitrobe 77 stopped getting talked about because it was no longer being produced at the time. But it is being produced now by damasteel. I think it was even developed specifically for knives and then...? It either got forgotten about or maybe theres some other good reasons it didnt take off. Or maybe it just cost too much. I dont know.

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Postby TomAiello » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:48 am

I'd love to see the Des Horn sprinted in Nitrobe 77.

And the LionSpy in Sleipner.

It would be cool to run models in steels that have a connection to the collaborators.

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Postby The Mastiff » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:15 am

YSS Hap 5r
YXR7
YSS HAP 72

Looking back over the YSS catalog I'm once again impressed Spyderco ran the Hap 40 high speed steel. It's still one of my favorite Enduras and therefore one of my most carried knives. It remains good stuff. Spyderco has been very good to us!

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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby archangel » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:40 am

From the recent thread it's pretty safe to say that S45VN will be introduced in production. So I marked it ++ which means it's gonna come. :)

+ means that Sal confirmed that Spyderco is testing the steel, or at least seriously looking into it.

Where to put ++ and +?
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Postby AlexRus » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:52 am

Böhler - Uddeholm M398 ☝️😎

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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby rabbitanarchy14 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:57 am

S390
Zwear
Zfinite
In-Possession - Para 3 S35VN, Para 3 G10 M390 Red, Dice XHP, Lil Native S30V comp B, Manix 2 M390 BR, MKM Voxnaes Isonzo N690Co, Benchmade 555HGBlu, Ontario Rat 2 Gr G10
On-Deck - Manix 2 Cruwear, Urban AEBL, Brouwer, Cat BD1N, Lil Native compression 20CV/M390, Dragonfly 2
Loved Steels - Cruwear, M390/20CV, S35VN, BD1N, XHP, S30V, N690Co

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Re: List of available knife steels not yet used by Spyderco for sales

Postby SteveMidwest » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:19 am

archangel wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:40 am
From the recent thread it's pretty safe to say that S45VN will be introduced in production. So I marked it ++ which means it's gonna come. :)

+ means that Sal confirmed that Spyderco is testing the steel, or at least seriously looking into it.

Where to put ++ and +?

You can mark 15V as being in-house, in Golden, and being tested at the moment. Sal mentioned this, in a thread titled
Sal, Can we get CPM 15v? :)


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