sal wrote:Knife afi's are pretty far out, steel junky's more so, but "edge junky's" are just nuts.
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: Also, do you think a kangaroo would eat a bowl of spagetti with sauce if someone offered it to them?
Yes it's kind of confusing. S30V has a nitrogen additions, while S35VN does not. The "N" in S35VN stands for niobium. But S45VN has both nitrogen and niobium. So it's a double "N" steel. I have a feeling no one is going to keep this straight.bearfacedkiller wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:37 amI have found S30V to be a little corrosion prone for a stainless steel so this may be a welcome improvement.
I have seen quite a few people on the internet incorrectly state that S35VN has nitrogen. I guess they just assume the N is nitrogen? Maybe this S45VN will clear that up.
I expect to see knife knuts turning their collective nose up at S35VN like they did with S30V. Out with the old and in with the new.
When is the Mule coming out?
Here is the answer I gave in another forum:emanuel wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:18 amThanks for the article Larrin, it's always a joy reading about new steels. My question now is, why would I chose S45VN over M390? Seems to be slightly worse at everything, from toughness, wear resistance, to edge retention and corrosion resistance. If it costs the same as S30V/S35VN I could see a use for it, if its 10-20% more expensive, than we're in the price range of 20CV/M390.
Vanax is an interesting one. Its high corrosion resistance somewhat limits its max hardness (60-61 Rc), though that is enough for many knives. It has a nice fine carbide/nitride structure which likely helps with fine edge abilities. The high content of carbide/nitride still limits its toughness to being no better than something like S35VN though. It demonstrates some very intriguing R&D.Pelagic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:06 pmYour article is amazing, thank you. The steel seems ok. Unless it has a really nice sharpening response I'll probably avoid it. I have a feeling it could see a surge of popularity in the market, yielding prices that don't exactly correspond with performance. Looks like another s##v steel.
That picture of Vanax's grain structure really puts things into perspective.
It is closest to S30V, S35VN, and Elmax.JD Spydo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:44 pmSay Larrin you've done another excellent thread and I now look forward to all the excellent blade steel threads you take the time to share with us.
I have one question about this new Crucible S45VN? Of all of Crucible's great blade steels which one do you think it resembles the most? Also which other high end blade steels of Crucible's competitor's that Sal has spoiled us on do you think it comes close to in overall performance?
Again Larrin we can't thank you enough for all this great information you take the time to share with us.