Police 4 Lightweight Observations

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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby TomH » Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:58 pm

Thanks for the review.

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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby Cambertree » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:51 am

Great review Vivi.

Did you get a chance to mike the BTE thickness?

I agree: a Reviews subforum would be great.

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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby sok » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:37 am

Thanks for the observations. Very helpful. I need to get one of these but I have my hands full with other knives at the moment.

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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby Kels73 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:11 pm

Thanks for the observations. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on this knife. Like you, I would love to see a full SE version. I also hope it gets the green/ZDP-189 treatment.

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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby Zvinets » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:44 pm

Glad to see in-depth review of the new Police 4 LW.
I am yet to found out if the loose pivot is a problem to be lookout for as I just received mine like last night. But for handling it a while I have no worries. :)

*Here's a little story of me getting one and a little off topic kinda hahah.

I've always wanted the G10 in K390 model but keeping out of luck and kept missing my chances on getting one. First try it was sold out where I end up getting my first Spydie a Manix 2 XL, same goes for second and third try I end up getting a latest Millie in Camo G10.

Three days ago a reputable local dealer puts up the Police 4 LW for sale, the pricing is quite on the marked up range but I was like eh whatever, I've always wanted one so I placed an order for one. When the piece arrived I was surprised turns out I got a numbered version, first Police variant and first numbered Spydie lol.

It is super slim among all my other folders & the length is just a win as I prefer the bigger options, surprised too for how light it is even lighter than the Millie in Camo G10. The FRN scales with Bi-Directional texturing, just nice grippy it stays in hand even the handles covered in oil as I lubricate mine, 4 position pocket clip offers flexible carry options and nice inside the jeans pocket for me.

Overall it's another 10/10 folder with signature hole opener (or a cute eye) to me. The K390 would only mean excellent ergonomics and weight with a "super steel" :p

Guess it gets "dangerous" when one finds their preference of choice combined with excellent craftsmanship quality, I already eyeing the Ronin or Yojimbo 2, plus many other models that attracts my attention. This "addiction" wouldn't stop anytime soon, I blamed Spyderco for making functional pieces with touch of aesthetics that appeals to me lol.

**A question tho, does Spyderco stopped / changed their boxes? I mean the "transparent" Spyder logo where one can see the line beneath it as a form to verify the product originality. Mine comes with all that looks legit except for the box, the Spyder logo is not transparent at all. Maybe I missed something.
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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby sal » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:01 am

Hi Zvinets,

Thanx for the kind words. Glad you are enjoying the knife. Our boxes go through minor variations, I wouldn't worry about it.

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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby AwayFromMySpydieHole » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:17 pm

I thought the steel for the P4 lightweight was supposed to be k390? I remember a video with Eric stating that I'm pretty sure.


I would love this knife in LW form but VG10 just doesn't cut it for me anymore. I'm no steel snob, I actually use my knives. In my experience VG10 needs sharpening too often.

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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby Vivi » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:10 pm

AwayFromMySpydieHole wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:17 pm
I thought the steel for the P4 lightweight was supposed to be k390? I remember a video with Eric stating that I'm pretty sure.


I would love this knife in LW form but VG10 just doesn't cut it for me anymore. I'm no steel snob, I actually use my knives. In my experience VG10 needs sharpening too often.
Sal says there will be a K390 and ZDP variant if the VG10 version sells well.

I use my knives too. The VG10 has been holdng up well enough for me. I've touched it up once since I bought it to bring it back to hair popping sharp.

Can't speak for others but VG10 works better than K390 as an EDC for me due to the corrosion resistance. I'd rather touch up a little more often than scrub rust out of pivots.

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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby ThomC » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:49 pm

Thanks for the review, I was considering the P4LW along with the Millie and the PM2 for a first Spyderco.
Decided to be original and ordered a standard S30V PM2, mostly because I like the idea of a knife I can close smoothly one-handed, a nice touch coming from nail nicks and the like.
I do plan on getting a VG-10 knife at some point, and the P4 ticks all the ergonomic boxes for me (plus I like the idea of getting different steels, and I'm already eyeing a transparent G10 Millie...)
Though as far as fit and finish go, I'm not surprised it's made that well, coming from a Japanese factory.
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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby sal » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:08 pm

Hi ThomC,

Welcome to our forum.

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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby Wartstein » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:32 pm

ThomC wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:49 pm
Thanks for the review, I was considering the P4LW along with the Millie and the PM2 for a first Spyderco.
Decided to be original and ordered a standard S30V PM2, mostly because I like the idea of a knife I can close smoothly one-handed, a nice touch coming from nail nicks and the like.
I do plan on getting a VG-10 knife at some point, and the P4 ticks all the ergonomic boxes for me (plus I like the idea of getting different steels, and I'm already eyeing a transparent G10 Millie...)
Though as far as fit and finish go, I'm not surprised it's made that well, coming from a Japanese factory.
HI ThomC, welcome to the forum!

As you´re new, you won´t get why I say "here we go again" ;)
But anyway: You can close a backlock as easily and smoothly one handed as a comp lock, and in more safe ways... so DON`T decide against the Police or any Spyderco backlock because of the myth a backlock would be hard to operate one handed!!
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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby ThomC » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:41 pm

Wartstein wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:32 pm
HI ThomC, welcome to the forum!

As you´re new, you won´t get why I say "here we go again" ;)
But anyway: You can close a backlock as easily and smoothly one handed as a comp lock, and in more safe ways... so DON`T decide against the Police or any Spyderco backlock because of the myth a backlock would be hard to operate one handed!!
Thanks for the welcome, Wartstein and Sal !

I know, I did some research before hand and I saw a lot of people showing it could be done easily, but I figured I'd go for the classic first ! :)
That certainly doesn't mean that the P4LW isn't on a (too expensive) wishlist ! You know what they say, variety is the spice of life !
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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby PaleMoon » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:21 am

It really is a great knife. For a long time I've wanted to buy the G10 version, but non-stainless folders are just too troublesome for me. I'm still hoping for a re-release in stainless at some point in the future.

The Police 4 virtually fixes everything that bothered me with the Military; the huge pommel on the handle, the blockiness in pocket, the large lanyard hole, the thickness of the blade, the tip-down only configuration, etc., all while giving me more cutting edge in nearly the same closed size.

I can't really find a fault with mine. It has dethroned both the Military and Large Sebenza as my go-to large PE folder, and will be my number one recommendation for anyone looking for a longer, more svelte EDC knife.
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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby ThomC » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:09 am

Vivi wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:41 pm
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I actually watched the linked video in your signature and I'll definitely try it out when I get a lockback, which might very well be the P4LW. Or the S35VN Native 5.
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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby Pelagic » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:55 am

I hope we see this model used for new high performance steels. P4 LW in 15v??
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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby Wdr65 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:59 am

Vivi,
You're review got me off the fence to buy one. I've always wanted a Police but the G-10 or stainless is just not my thing.

I've carried this one for the past three weeks everyday at work. I usually carry something a little smaller when I go out, just so I don't attract too much attention if I need to use it at night. It's coming close to displacing the Endura as my overall favorite work knife, especially if it comes in ZDP-189. It's already a slicing machine on rope and strap in VG-10.

I'm glad I bought it and look forward to future variations.

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Re: Police 4 Lightweight Observations

Postby Vivi » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:24 pm

Glad its working out for you. I carry mine or my G10 version any time I carry a folder. It's my favorite design from Spyderco. I hope we see a serrated version in 2020!


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