Feasability of partially DLC'd blades (just ricasso and pivot areas)
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Feasability of partially DLC'd blades (just ricasso and pivot areas)
I love the idea of DLC to keep tool steels from rusting quite as readily, but I don't really like th DLC on the ground part of the blade. Would it be feasible to make the area behind the flat grind (ricasso and pivot/internal sections) DLC coated but the flat grind clean metal? This would make a pinned knife like the Manix 2 in a tool steel more attractive to me. It would also mean less maintenance so less need to open the knife up and deal with putting it back together.
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Re: Feasability of partially DLC'd blades (just ricasso and pivot areas)
Pretty sure WE does this. Two tone finishes. Not sure if they use DLC though. Look through some WE knives and you'll see what I mean. I kind of doubt they use dlc on their two tone blades though. My Micotech Socom Elite with a two tine blade is def not dlc. I'm wondering if it is a difficult to grind an already dlc'd blade so manufacturers go with something else.
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Re: Feasability of partially DLC'd blades (just ricasso and pivot areas)
It’s possible, just a matter of whether it’s worth it or not I’m guessing.
Spyderco has done partial DLC in the past with the Mamba.
Spyderco has done partial DLC in the past with the Mamba.
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Re: Feasability of partially DLC'd blades (just ricasso and pivot areas)
That's cool! I didn't realize the Mambo was actually black on the blade. I hope they consider this for functional reasons if it doesn't add too much cost.
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Let me start by saying, I don't own any dlc blades, and have no interest in them.
Personally, I've avoided dlc, especially on non-stainless steels, because quite a few people have found corrosion UNDER the coating. Non-stainless steels, in my opinion, are actually safer without the coating. Oil can be applied, the blade can be thoroughly dried, and corrosion will be visually apparent. Of course this is just my opinion, based on anecdotes and personal preference. Hopefully those who want partial or full dlc coating will get their wish.
Personally, I've avoided dlc, especially on non-stainless steels, because quite a few people have found corrosion UNDER the coating. Non-stainless steels, in my opinion, are actually safer without the coating. Oil can be applied, the blade can be thoroughly dried, and corrosion will be visually apparent. Of course this is just my opinion, based on anecdotes and personal preference. Hopefully those who want partial or full dlc coating will get their wish.
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Counterpoint: I rust every non-salt knife I carry clipped to my pockets or waistband, BESIDES my Manix XL in DLC.Albatross wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:27 amLet me start by saying, I don't own any dlc blades, and have no interest in them.
Personally, I've avoided dlc, especially on non-stainless steels, because quite a few people have found corrosion UNDER the coating. Non-stainless steels, in my opinion, are actually safer without the coating. Oil can be applied, the blade can be thoroughly dried, and corrosion will be visually apparent. Of course this is just my opinion, based on anecdotes and personal preference. Hopefully those who want partial or full dlc coating will get their wish.
Not all coated knives are made equally. The baked on finish ESEE uses for example is a world different. My experience with Spydercos DLC has been nothing short of revolutionary.
I wish someone at Spyderco shared my enthusiasm for DLC blades AND liners, it's a game changer for people that deal with heavily corrosive environments.
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Good to hear dlc works well for you. Maybe the reports of rust beneath the coating were a result of some corrosive substance, making it's way on to the blades, prior to the dlc application process. Either way, it's not for me.Vivi wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:40 pmCounterpoint: I rust every non-salt knife I carry clipped to my pockets or waistband, BESIDES my Manix XL in DLC.Albatross wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:27 amLet me start by saying, I don't own any dlc blades, and have no interest in them.
Personally, I've avoided dlc, especially on non-stainless steels, because quite a few people have found corrosion UNDER the coating. Non-stainless steels, in my opinion, are actually safer without the coating. Oil can be applied, the blade can be thoroughly dried, and corrosion will be visually apparent. Of course this is just my opinion, based on anecdotes and personal preference. Hopefully those who want partial or full dlc coating will get their wish.
Not all coated knives are made equally. The baked on finish ESEE uses for example is a world different. My experience with Spydercos DLC has been nothing short of revolutionary.
I wish someone at Spyderco shared my enthusiasm for DLC blades AND liners, it's a game changer for people that deal with heavily corrosive environments.
I can see the practical application for partially coated blades, and as I said before, I hope those who want it, get it.
There have been quite a few requests on this forum, which were later fulfilled. Maybe this will be one of them as well.
Re: Feasability of partially DLC'd blades (just ricasso and pivot areas)
I have a WE Knives Wisp, two tone and they call it DLC.knivesandbooks wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:00 amPretty sure WE does this. Two tone finishes. Not sure if they use DLC though. Look through some WE knives and you'll see what I mean. I kind of doubt they use dlc on their two tone blades though. My Micotech Socom Elite with a two tine blade is def not dlc. I'm wondering if it is a difficult to grind an already dlc'd blade so manufacturers go with something else.
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YES! Thats honestly my biggest turn off to all the DLC compression lock knives. The whole knife is wonderfully blacked out, but then you have this glaring silver tab shining out in the middle of nowhere. I don't understand why they don't black the liners out like on the Manix 2's. If I ever got one I'd have to go out and get the liners cerakoted or something. And after seeing the inside of your Police 4, its obvious that corrosion inhibition would be much needed in many cases as well.
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Re: Feasability of partially DLC'd blades (just ricasso and pivot areas)
Ez556 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:33 amYES! Thats honestly my biggest turn off to all the DLC compression lock knives. The whole knife is wonderfully blacked out, but then you have this glaring silver tab shining out in the middle of nowhere. I don't understand why they don't black the liners out like on the Manix 2's. If I ever got one I'd have to go out and get the liners cerakoted or something. And after seeing the inside of your Police 4, its obvious that corrosion inhibition would be much needed in many cases as well.
On knives with liners I also think DLC or something similar would be helpful. Basically DLC'ing anything that is inside the knife would make it much easier for a non-tinkerer to keep his/her spyderco in good shape for longer.