KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby awa54 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:47 pm

Curse you Spyderco!!

(in other words, I'm super psyched for this knife and will have to order one right away!)
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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G1

Postby Filoso- » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:35 am

Finally!! A Cruwear Native! Not the best handle scales choice, but I didn't even think it, so ordered one...
I have an old linered handle with micarta scales waiting for this blade ;)

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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby bearfacedkiller » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:15 am

Enactive wrote:
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Just like gravy on a biscuit, I AM ALL OVER THIS ONE! Woo Hoo!!!!!
I just ordered mine... was thinking to send you a message to make sure you get one and then saw this. Total surprise. Awesome impulse purchase.

Friday stoke! Cheers.
Thanks for looking out for me.

Man, it has been a speedy month or two. :eek: I guess it is time to thin the herd a little. :(
Yeah, man. Sure thing. I know how much you love that Cru Wear.

This will be my first CW knife. What's your preferred sharpening and honing protocol for it?

I'm glad I didn't go for the CW delica, tho I considered it. I'm still waiting for that Crucarta Shaman, patient like, with $ allocated. :cool: :D

The Chief is awesome. Have you gotten one yet? If we ever get Salts and sprints/ exclusives I'll be pleased.
You should enjoy Cruwear and you can pretty much sharpen it any way you wish. It responds well to pretty much everything. I usually finish it on the Sharpnaker brown rods myself.

Nope, no Chief yet. Too many other knives dropping so far. Getting ready to throw some of the less loved Spydies up on the auction site though. Should have more money in the knife fund soon.
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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby TkoK83Spy » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:22 am

I was just about to say something similar...Since getting the Manix version of this knife, I've used it quite a bit at work. I'm impressed with how long it stays razor sharp compared to other steels I've used here in the warehouse. I intentionally cut through a bunch of cardboard the other day to dull it a bit quicker. Like Darby said, I finished on just the brown rods and it was shaving sharp. Before that sharpening/touch up, after the last time I touched it up I took it from the browns to the ultra fines and then used my KnivesPlus strop. It was a bit sharper than off just the browns, but I spent more time obviously. I don't think it was really necessary though.

It really is a steel that wants to get sharp and doesn't fight you!
Currently have 17 :spyder: 's in 13 different steels.

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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby Woodpuppy » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:10 am

I’ve never held the Native. This would be the one to get since I didn’t jump on the bhq M4 exclusive.
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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:29 am

steelcity16 wrote:
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Dear KnifeCenter,

I will forgive you for tainting all of these beautiful Cruwear knives by using smooth G10 IF, and only if, you comission the Manix LW, Native LW, and Para 3 LW in DLC coated Cruwear with White FRN. :D

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Has their been a poll on smooth scales I have purchased two this way swapped out my PM 2 for regular and the Manix is sitting in the box until I get around to getting rid of those awful smooth scales.

I get it that some like smooth scales accept it, respect it but don’t Comprehend it.

Please someone else pick up the Cruwear with regular peel and ply and FRN. The last thing I want is a slick knife.

Passing on this one because I own an M4 DLC Native and two salt versions SE AND PE. All of these have great handles with positive traction.

Had this been with regular G-10 instant purchase. Dear Knife center smooth does not make you stand out just makes people think overpriced tiny knife with great steel that will slip out of the hand and hit the tile floor.

No thank you very much.
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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby hovan2yourknives » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:51 am

The only time G10 should be smooth is when it’s contoured! Imagine how sweet this could’ve been?

I’ll probably still order one though...if they’re around in a couple of days.

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Postby TomAiello » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:37 am

I'm actually kind of glad all these Cruwear exclusives are coming out. If they were 4v, I'd be so much poorer right now.

I'm a lot more tempted by this one than the Delica, but CruWear is far enough down my list for a folder that I'll pass on this native too. I wonder if I can use the funds to pay someone to sit on line and snag me the 4v Lil native...

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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby Enactive » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:51 am

bearfacedkiller wrote:
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Enactive wrote:
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I just ordered mine... was thinking to send you a message to make sure you get one and then saw this. Total surprise. Awesome impulse purchase.

Friday stoke! Cheers.
Thanks for looking out for me.

Man, it has been a speedy month or two. :eek: I guess it is time to thin the herd a little. :(
Yeah, man. Sure thing. I know how much you love that Cru Wear.

This will be my first CW knife. What's your preferred sharpening and honing protocol for it?

I'm glad I didn't go for the CW delica, tho I considered it. I'm still waiting for that Crucarta Shaman, patient like, with $ allocated. :cool: :D

The Chief is awesome. Have you gotten one yet? If we ever get Salts and sprints/ exclusives I'll be pleased.
You should enjoy Cruwear and you can pretty much sharpen it any way you wish. It responds well to pretty much everything. I usually finish it on the Sharpnaker brown rods myself.

Nope, no Chief yet. Too many other knives dropping so far. Getting ready to throw some of the less loved Spydies up on the auction site though. Should have more money in the knife fund soon.
Thanks, Darby (and Rick) for the sharpening tips. I understand Cruwear to be easy to sharpen and glad to hear your methods. For knives that are not specifically for woodworking (which like a polished finish) I've moved to coarser finishes and am challenging myself to achieve higher level sharpness from coarser stones. Practice, practice.

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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby bagsnatcher » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:27 am

I picked up two.

ETA is Monday.

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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby steelcity16 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:31 pm

hovan2yourknives wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:51 am

The only time G10 should be smooth is when it’s contoured! Imagine how sweet this could’ve been?

I don't even want it smooth when its contoured. I wish the Shaman had the coarse Peel Ply Texture on the flats. Hopefully the Micarta Cruwear has a nice grippy roughed up matte Micarta.
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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby bearfacedkiller » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:50 am

I have never felt the need for more texture on a knife. All peel ply does for me is increase the grip a pocket clip has on the fabric of my pants. I do appreciate that as I have had smooth knives work there way out of my pocket before. Looking at you, Ti framelocks! :p

I will be polishing this Native up a little bit to bring out that smooth G10’s inner beauty. :)
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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby Pelagic » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:21 am

This to me would be an excellent woodcarving knife.

I don't mind smooth G10. But it depends on the purpose of the knife for the user. A hard work knife begs for a textured handle. The only exception to me is something like the recent manix 2 cruwear/smooth G10 run, since the manix has deep finger grooves which should suffice for a confident purchase/grip when making harder cuts.
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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby The Mastiff » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:28 am

I'm interested to see how the Japan made Cruwear knives compare to the Golden models. The Golden ones have very consistent heat treats and I've yet to see one fall out of the rc 61-63 ( target rc 62) where we have found a really great ( near perfect for my uses and likes) performance and sharpening balance.

When I see a Golden made Cruwear knife I know how it will perform and I know I will really like it. I'm looking forward to getting my long awaited backlock style Cruwear Spyderco. This is really right in my comfort zone.

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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby jdw » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:39 am

Pelagic wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:21 am
This to me would be an excellent woodcarving knife.

I don't mind smooth G10. But it depends on the purpose of the knife for the user. A hard work knife begs for a textured handle. The only exception to me is something like the recent manix 2 cruwear/smooth G10 run, since the manix has deep finger grooves which should suffice for a confident purchase/grip when making harder cuts.
I am not a fan of smooth G10 either but I bought this one. I agree with you on the purchase of the handle but I don't really use the Native without fully choking up on the choil. It offers me a firm hold similar to the jimping on the Manix, with obvious differences, but it definitely helps compensate for the slick G10.
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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby marty_bill_ » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:15 am

Gonna have to get in on this!

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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby Pelagic » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:15 am

jdw wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:39 am
Pelagic wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:21 am
This to me would be an excellent woodcarving knife.

I don't mind smooth G10. But it depends on the purpose of the knife for the user. A hard work knife begs for a textured handle. The only exception to me is something like the recent manix 2 cruwear/smooth G10 run, since the manix has deep finger grooves which should suffice for a confident purchase/grip when making harder cuts.
I am not a fan of smooth G10 either but I bought this one. I agree with you on the purchase of the handle but I don't really use the Native without fully choking up on the choil. It offers me a firm hold similar to the jimping on the Manix, with obvious differences, but it definitely helps compensate for the slick G10.
That's a good point. Most people certainly use the choil. The absence of liners is the only thing that stopped me on this one. I'm already not very big on small blades, so I'm more particular about the ones I consider.
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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby MMGRenovations » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:21 pm

I actually enjoy smooth scales more then peel-ply. For me, the shape of the handle determines how the knife feels. Where I find it makes a bigger difference is, as mentioned before, the pocket clip retention. I prefer smooth, they are easier on the pockets. I use my knife quite a bit when I work. For example if I’m doing a crown moulding job my pencil needs to be really sharp so I can make precise marks for my cut. I probably sharpen my pencil 15-20 times a day. That’s a lot of wear on the pockets. Another reason I don’t like peel-ply as much is that they get dirtier. They seem to trap dirt and particles where smooth scales don’t.

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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby Pelagic » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:00 pm

On days off, I certainly prefer smooth G10 in regard to pocket clips. But at work I really like the knife being anchored in the pocket. I don't like losing expensive knives overboard.
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Re: KnifeCenter CPM-CRUWEAR Native 5 with smooth black G10

Postby Brock O Lee » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:29 pm

I prefer smooth for IWB carry. This Native checks all my boxes.
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