"Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby VashHash » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:17 pm

tonijedi wrote:
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VashHash wrote:
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Probably anything in H1 and frn.
This.
PE is more durable than SE, at least my experience leads me to that.
I've had good experience with both but I carry and abuse SE H1. More than PE.

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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby JonLeBlanc » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:24 pm

The Tuff was designed to be well...tough, wasn't it?
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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby Pelagic » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:37 pm

My guess would be the rock salt.
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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby The Meat man » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:57 pm

Evil D wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:51 am
Definitely something in H1 and a fixed blade. I'd imagine an Enuff is nearly indestructible. They're fairly thick and short so you can only put so much leverage on them, compared to something 10 inches long that is much easier to bend if you really lean on it.

Enuff Salt gets my vote as well.

For a folder, I'd say one with thick blade stock and steel liners. Maybe something from the value line.
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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby Sumdumguy » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:13 pm

Rock Salt would get my vote aswell.

Folder? I wouldn't trade my Caribbean for anything :)

I'd like to have a Rock Salt in LC200N.

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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby p_atrick » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:22 pm

The Meat man wrote:
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For a folder, I'd say one with thick blade stock and steel liners. Maybe something from the value line.
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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby wrdwrght » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:51 pm

Durability... You mean a Spydie’s promise to continue performing as intended during and after stressful cutting tasks, or an actual history of such results?

This distinction matters.

My Shamans, stout as they are, sure show promise to be the “most durable” in my collection, but I have yet to challenge either my S30V or M4 versions.

So, I have to say that my most abused Spydie—a PE Pacific Salt—has proven to be my “most durable”. In fact, it’s a better performer now than when I gave up on it. Let me explain.

Before Vivi and Surfingringo convinced me that plain-edge H1 needed its own sharpening protocol to be the reliable cutter we all want, I had consigned my ever-dulling PE Pacific Salt to a bucket of gardening tools.

For five years or so, I carelessly plunged it into my lawns and garden beds to dig out weeds; sometimes I used its dulled edge to improve the edging between lawn and bed. So, lots of abrasion (against soil particulates) of the blade, as well as torquing, if not actual prying; and rarely did I dry, let alone clean it.

Going 15dps at the moment (the 10dps I recall Vivi advising comes next) without a micro-bevel off the Sharpmaker’s diamond triangles, then just a few very light passes over the browns to preserve the coarse bevel has brought my PE Pacific Salt back to a cutter of respectable duration that I wanted it to be in the first place.

And the knife has cleaned up such that it looks to have been only lightly used since I got it years ago

Durable, I’d say.
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Postby Ankerson » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:38 pm

The knife that comes in the box. ;)


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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby ugaarguy » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:44 am

The Meat man wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:57 pm
Evil D wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:51 am
Definitely something in H1 and a fixed blade. I'd imagine an Enuff is nearly indestructible. They're fairly thick and short so you can only put so much leverage on them, compared to something 10 inches long that is much easier to bend if you really lean on it.

Enuff Salt gets my vote as well.

For a folder, I'd say one with thick blade stock and steel liners. Maybe something from the value line.
I've had a couple of Spydies with liners that developed pretty bad rust on the liners between the scales and the liners. When the Sage 5 LW finally hits the market I'll give linered Spydies another chance. Value line? You're kidding, right? 8Cr13MoV isn't very corrosion resistant, and liner locks aren't near as strong as most other lock types.

For those who like the Carribean, lets see how those LC200N liners hold up. There was that Mule with the Halpern G10 (or were they CF?) scales that rusted. I've read that it was likely cross contamination from another material on the belt used to finish the surface of the scales, but I don't now that Spyderco ever released an official culprit, if they even found one.

My folder bets would be on a linerless, FRN handle, Salt folder: Or the best Salt folder made so far, the Spydiechef.

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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby Vivi » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:21 am

ugaarguy wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:44 am
The Meat man wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:57 pm
Evil D wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:51 am
Definitely something in H1 and a fixed blade. I'd imagine an Enuff is nearly indestructible. They're fairly thick and short so you can only put so much leverage on them, compared to something 10 inches long that is much easier to bend if you really lean on it.

Enuff Salt gets my vote as well.

For a folder, I'd say one with thick blade stock and steel liners. Maybe something from the value line.
I've had a couple of Spydies with liners that developed pretty bad rust on the liners between the scales and the liners. When the Sage 5 LW finally hits the market I'll give linered Spydies another chance. Value line? You're kidding, right? 8Cr13MoV isn't very corrosion resistant, and liner locks aren't near as strong as most other lock types.

For those who like the Carribean, lets see how those LC200N liners hold up. There was that Mule with the Halpern G10 (or were they CF?) scales that rusted. I've read that it was likely cross contamination from another material on the belt used to finish the surface of the scales, but I don't now that Spyderco ever released an official culprit, if they even found one.

My folder bets would be on a linerless, FRN handle, Salt folder: Or the best Salt folder made so far, the Spydiechef.
The stainless or g10 cara caras, especially the first version, are very stout folders.

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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby demoncase » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:37 am

You've got to be trying really hard to do damage to an FRN Delica or Endura- full steel liners, sabre ground blades and a solid backlock.
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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby Wartstein » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:10 am

demoncase wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:37 am
You've got to be trying really hard to do damage to an FRN Delica or Endura- full steel liners, sabre ground blades and a solid backlock.

+1 (especially - as said - for the sabre ground versions)
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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby Ez556 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:20 am

I’d say an Enuff Salt. As others have said, it’s the super tough H1 steel mixed with a short, thick fixed blade.
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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby kreisler » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:12 pm

techno 2 has thick handles titanium and thick blade , big screws, big washers. pocket clip is wire but inexpensive to replace. should be very durable no?

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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby N. Brian Huegel » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:17 pm

It would be easier to create a short of those that wouldn't rate as "most durable". Spyderco's standards are so high on everything they make and have made that the short list would be very short especially when one considers application.

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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby Naperville » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:46 pm

Most durable Spyderco I have is the Jumpmaster 2. It's a beast.
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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby The Meat man » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:53 pm

ugaarguy wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:44 am
The Meat man wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:57 pm
Evil D wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:51 am
Definitely something in H1 and a fixed blade. I'd imagine an Enuff is nearly indestructible. They're fairly thick and short so you can only put so much leverage on them, compared to something 10 inches long that is much easier to bend if you really lean on it.

Enuff Salt gets my vote as well.

For a folder, I'd say one with thick blade stock and steel liners. Maybe something from the value line.
I've had a couple of Spydies with liners that developed pretty bad rust on the liners between the scales and the liners. When the Sage 5 LW finally hits the market I'll give linered Spydies another chance. Value line? You're kidding, right? 8Cr13MoV isn't very corrosion resistant, and liner locks aren't near as strong as most other lock types.

For those who like the Carribean, lets see how those LC200N liners hold up. There was that Mule with the Halpern G10 (or were they CF?) scales that rusted. I've read that it was likely cross contamination from another material on the belt used to finish the surface of the scales, but I don't now that Spyderco ever released an official culprit, if they even found one.

My folder bets would be on a linerless, FRN handle, Salt folder: Or the best Salt folder made so far, the Spydiechef.

Most durable doesn't necessarily mean most corrosion resistant.
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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby SpyderEdgeForever » Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:58 pm

David, if Spyderco were to make an Enuff Salt with a four inch long blade and a sharper point, with serrated edge, would you get one and consider it a serious survival blade?

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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby Tucson Tom » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:07 pm

My nominations:

The backlock Manix (now discontinued).
The Shaman

This reminds me again that I need to pick up a Jumpmaster one of these days.

Honorable mention:

any Mule (maybe even any fixed blade)
any Manix 2

I'm not really thinking at all about steels, but overall design and construction.

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Re: "Most Durable" available Spyderco Knife?

Postby Wartstein » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:09 am

Tucson Tom wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:07 pm
My nominations:

The backlock Manix (now discontinued).
The Shaman
A backlock Shaman would be even better concerning monster- durability...

Don't get me wrong, the existing Shaman is way more than strong enough, and though I prefer a backlock generally, it's comp. lock is very strong too..

But when it comes to totally unnecessary, never needed in real-even-hard-use, crazy strength, the added steel on the back of the handle and the general strength of a backlock would make the Shaman a total tank (again, more than anybody would ever need. It's just a mind game how the strongest possible folder might look like).
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