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Centofante love?

Postby ATC729 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:15 am

While cruising around the web looking at Spydercos, I came across a blade I had never seen or heard of before, the Centofante 3. It checked a lot of boxes for me since I seem to always be searching for a gentleman knife for work that is large enough to cut my apple at lunch (one cut through the middle).

Have I not heard about it because it's an older model?
Is there something wrong with it and thats why it's never suggested when searching "gentleman's knife"?

I really like it, but I'm curious how I have missed it all of this time.

Edit: typing is hard on a phone...
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby Sharp Guy » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:28 am

ASFAIK the Centofante 3 is still a current model and is readily available. If you search the forum there's been threads about it here and there. That's one that I've always intended to pick up but never have for some reason. Not sure why. I guess there's always been something else that I've purchased instead.

The discontinued Centofante 4 (Wharncliffe) is one that I really wanted. I was looking for one for a while there but stopped looking.
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby Wartstein » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:40 am

ATC729 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:15 am
While cruising around the web looking at Spydercos, I came across a blade I had never seen or heard of before, the Centofante 3. It checked a lot of boxes for me since I seem to always be searching for a gentleman knife for work that is large enough to cut my apple at lunch (one cut through the middle).

Have I not heard about it because it's an older model?
Is there something wrong with it and thats why it's never suggested when searching "gentleman's knife"?

I really like it, but I'm curious how I have missed it all of this time.

Edit: typing is hard on a phone...

The Centofante 3 is not exactly a new model... I had one some years ago for some time.

And I have to say, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, I liked it a lot:
Let me explain why and by doing so compare it to a real famous model that you might know, the PM2.

- Centofante has virtually the same edge as the PM2 in a much lighter (71 g vs 111g) and shorter package (closed: 11.4mm vs 12.2, and the Centofante is a lot slimmer)
- It has a backlock (vs comp lock),which I like a lot
- It has a very ergonomic handle that should fit most hands (no finger grooves) plus the edge goes right back to the handle (so your hand is placed very close to the edge without having to use a choil
- And the best thing: Thin,but still strong enough blade stock (2mm vs 3.5mm on the PM2); I am aware of only one other Spydie that has such a slicey thin stock: The Chaparral.

Concerning how the handle is shaped without finger grooves and how the edge goes back all the way to the handle, it is a lot like the Caribbean (not in other aspects though!)

So why did I sell it eventually you might ask?

First I am not a collector, I can´t and don´t want to have too many folders, so I have to sell some in order to have the funds for new ones I want to try

What I did not like in the Centofante was the sabre / hollow grind. Slices amazingly well when it comes to material that has a small diameter, but not so much when it comes to stuff that has some height (like your apple....). Than the upper part of the blade acts a bit like a wedge. I prefer thin blade stock coming in ffg (like in the Chap)

What did not bother me personally at all but is something to consider: As said, there is no choil or Ricasso, so closing the knife is a bit more "risky" for the fingers.

Plus, the Centofante can feel a bit "flexy" and soft in the handle compared to lets say a Stretch with its steel liners. BUT, that being said: Functionally it is absolutely strong enough for any knife task.

For a larger "gents folder" it´s sure one of the best choices out there. Go for it!! ;)
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby zhyla » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:41 am

I think it’s one of the longest continuous production Spydercos. It’s not super popular. FRN was passé for a long time and hollow grinds still are for the most part. Also nobody really likes river construction.

But... the blade is super thin and I’ve heard it’s an amazing slicer.

There is a compression lock variant called the Vesuvius I think which is pretty cool too.

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Re: Centofante love?

Postby ATC729 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:45 am

zhyla wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:41 am
I think it’s one of the longest continuous production Spydercos. It’s not super popular. FRN was passé for a long time and hollow grinds still are for the most part. Also nobody really likes river construction.

But... the blade is super thin and I’ve heard it’s an amazing slicer.

There is a compression lock variant called the Vesuvius I think which is pretty cool too.
I haven't heard of the Vesuvius either, I'll have to look that up!

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Re: Centofante love?

Postby Wartstein » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:49 am

zhyla wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:41 am
...
There is a compression lock variant called the Vesuvius...
That´s someting I totally did NOT know... thanks, very interesting (though I personally would prefer the backlock).

Funny, that this "Vesuvius" did/does not sell well obviously. It seems, many people like light, not too big knives with a comp.lock and rediscover choil-less models and their simplicity these days... (See Caribbean, and the wish for a Miniversion of it...)
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby GiftedMisfit » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:08 am

Another reason people pass (such as me) is because its pinned construction is kind of a bummer. Other than that it's a beauty.
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby Doc Dan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:56 pm

I always pass on this live simply because it was not FFG. It would be OK if the grind was higher but it’s not. Still it is a very good looking knife.
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby Wartstein » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:04 pm

Doc Dan wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:56 pm
I always pass on this live simply because it was not FFG....

I am totally with you on that as already stated in my earlier post:
If it was ffg, I'd most likely still have the one I had. The Centofante really is a lot of cutting edge in a light and ekegant package.
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby TomAiello » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:19 pm

Sharp Guy wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:28 am
The discontinued Centofante 4 (Wharncliffe) is one that I really wanted. I was looking for one for a while there but stopped looking.
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby PSquared » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:30 pm

Unfortunately the Centofante hasn’t been upgraded with all the “modern” expectations of 4way clip, screwed construction, FFG, unnecessary liners and is still stuck in the early-mid 90s.

All that said it is a great knife for what you are paying for it. More ergonomic (to me anyway) than a stock Delica, maximized cutting edge, thin blade stock, non pocket shredding smooth FRN ... its an honest working knife rather than an Instagram star, I like it a lot. I’ve dremmeled a bit of the spike off the thumb ramp on mine and it’s a lot more comfortable now.

Relatively speaking they are cheap so buy one and try it, you could do a lot worse.

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Re: Centofante love?

Postby PSquared » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:36 pm

Here's a wharnie to look at (and some other Centofante goodness)

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Re: Centofante love?

Postby Wartstein » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:49 pm

PSquared wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:30 pm
Unfortunately the Centofante hasn’t been upgraded with all the “modern” expectations of 4way clip, screwed construction, FFG, unnecessary liners and is still stuck in the early-mid 90s.
If I remember right (had a Centofante 3 for about a year) it has ONE nested liner. Is this correct??

Plus I recall it felt very thin behind the edge. Great slicer when cutting things like cordage (ok, as you'd expect from thin bladestock plus hollow grind...)
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby Tims » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:44 am

PSquared wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:36 pm
Here's a wharnie to look at (and some other Centofante goodness)

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Re: Centofante love?

Postby Evil D » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:15 am

I'm a big fan of the 3 and 4. I would love to see an updated version but I'm not sure that'll ever happen since Mr. Centofante has passed. It seems like this one is still in production as a tribute of sorts. It seems like the longest collaboration run ever.
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby bearfacedkiller » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:18 am

I love the 3 and 4. We really need a sprint run 4.

It does have one liner for the clip.

It may be a lower hollow grind but it is 2mm stock and slices well. The 4 is a sold performer.

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Re: Centofante love?

Postby PSquared » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:30 am

Tims wrote:
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The Memory was a real looker wasn’t it. The epitome of class.

It’s a fantastic knife. I wasn’t wild about the blue ano but after it got the scotchbrite treatment it became and still is a regular in my rotation.

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Re: Centofante love?

Postby Larry_Mott » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:46 am

My Centofante familia

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Re: Centofante love?

Postby araneae » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:03 am

It's a long running collaboration for a reason. It's a great slicer, lightweight, classy "despite" being FRN, and not terribly expensive. The Cento is definitely worth checking out.
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Re: Centofante love?

Postby Ez556 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:22 am

I just recently picked one up to give as a gift. I like to break in knives I give away a bit as to leave a good first impression to whoever I give it to, and it also gives me the chance to play with the knife myself :D that said, I was very impressed with it the short time I had it. It’s very nice opening, I like the location of the hole relative to the pivot. The blade is also drop dead gorgeous. I’m a sucker for nice swedges, and that swedge combined with the hollow grind makes for a very handsome blade that reflects light nicely from its numerous angles. The handle is also very refined and comfortable to boot. For the money, it’s a fantastic knife. Yeah, it’s pinned FRN, but who cares? Obviously a lot do, but for your average person who isn’t ever gonna take a knife apart it’s a moot point. If it caught your eye and you are thinking about getting it I’d say do it, you should be very happy with it.
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