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Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:41 pm
by Dazen
With the modern premium gentlemen slip-joints inundating the market now I keep seeing the BM Proper pop up everywhere, and I wondered if Spyderco could do it better. It has to be a knife that is a slip-joint, high end materials, and about 4” long/3” blade. The thing I don’t like about the Proper other than it’s a BM is it doesn’t have a pocket clip, whether I keep it on or not.

The only knife I could think of was the UKPK with the Carbon Fiber scales, which I think would be an awesome comparison. If the UKPK were done now with S110V and Carbon Fiber Scales and maybe even a drop point blade I think it would give the Proper a run for its money. With the finger choil, Spydie-hole, and clip it makes this an a easy win.

What do y’all think, especially those who own a UKPK? Can y’all think of another knife that competes?

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:53 pm
by Doc Dan
The proper is a great looking life no doubt. I’ve heard that the quality is sort of hit and miss as far as fit and finish goes and the springs. Spyderco of course is pretty awesome anyway. I’d rather have the Spyderco. I think a straight spine drop point Spyderco UKPK would be just the right thing.It should have good steel like XHP or ElMax, and lightning strike carbon fiber. It would also be nice if the liners had some color to them. The cf proper has colored liners.

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:13 pm
by knivesandbooks
I'd buy it if it had nice carbon fiber, lightning strike c.f., or marbled. Also, it would be even better if the handles were contoured.

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:19 pm
by blueblur
I think the roadie would be cool in cf and a premium steel.

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:33 pm
by rangefinder

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:39 pm
by cycleguy
If it don't have a thumb hole or a fixed blade, I don't go there. Yep, great looking but the function (deployment) is sub standard and archaic. Makes me think retro ... ya know, Polaroids, vinyl & record players, that kind of crap that is getting popular again and people are dumb enough to buy.

CG

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:12 pm
by glutofknives
A cf ukpk sounds awesome.

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:27 pm
by Genotoxic
It would be awesome to get something like the proper that actually cuts well haha... they come with like a 25 dps edge and a lazy plunge grind so the choil has to be modified to prevent it from getting an ugly smile when dropping back the edge angle to something proper like 17 dps... a little high class Spyderco would be awesome as an alternative for sure!

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:36 pm
by TkoK83Spy
I'll take my $100 HH exclusive UKPK all day, every day, over this knife. Wouldn't even ponder it for a second. BM is so overpriced it's disgusting.

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:56 pm
by SF Native
TkoK83Spy wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:36 pm
I'll take my $100 HH exclusive UKPK all day, every day, over this knife. Wouldn't even ponder it for a second. BM is so overpriced it's disgusting.
There is a lot of truth in all the responses. I have a proper but the grind is too thick, it’s not a great slicer.

But the red g10 ukpk is much better and currently available if I’m not mistaken. Mine gets regular use.
Another ukpk in carbon, bone, micarta or ti would get my attention.

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:36 pm
by embry386
SF Native wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:56 pm
I have a proper but the grind is too thick, it’s not a great slicer.
Ah really? That sucks, I really like sheepsfoots and the Proper is one sleek-looking knife.

If Spyderco made a similar-shaped thing, I'd probably buy it. Sheepsfoot blades are great, and I'm always looking to try out more.

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:48 pm
by Wartstein
As long as local laws are allowing a locking, one hand opening folder I don't get the purpose of something like the proper from a practical point of view (if one just likes the design for other reasons that's fine of course).

The proper even has a long handle and no choil, so other than for example the Urban one obviously will not be holding it choked up (with a finger in a choil that's partly in the blade) which would support the NOT locked blade.
Plus if the blade might fold in accidentely, no choil or Ricasso will protect the index finger from being hit by the edge...

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:20 am
by G_shark
If the Alistair slipjoint comes out and it's done well, this might be it guys...

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:52 am
by Dazen
G_shark wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:20 am
If the Alistair slipjoint comes out and it's done well, this might be it guys...
If this is the one your talking about I’d be all over it. I thought this was a one off for someone like Sal. Make this happen for sure!

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:57 am
by Dazen
blueblur wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:19 pm
I think the roadie would be cool in cf and a premium steel.
I’ve have a Roadie and absolutely love it, and would love to see it in CF. I think we would need a Roadie XL though to fill this need with the Proper.

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:10 am
by archangel

I second that. Could well take over my personal #1 of premium slipjoint spydies, the Pingo Elmax sprint. Especially if you'd give it some material upgrade. :rolleyes:

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:35 am
by Redman5006
I have the Titanium Pingo in Elmax. I would take it over a Proper all day, everyday. (bottom)

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:59 am
by awa54
Kiwi 4 with micarta scales (since Moki does nice micarta) and a premium blade steel... With Moki that might mean Superblue, since Sakai is the only Japanese partner we've seen US/Euro steels from.

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:47 am
by JonLeBlanc
Not a huge fan of that blade design, but I very much DO like those CF scales! Definitely my favorite handle material.

Re: Spyderco BM Proper Killer!

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:51 am
by Doc Dan
awa54 wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:59 am
Kiwi 4 with micarta scales (since Moki does nice micarta) and a premium blade steel... With Moki that might mean Superblue, since Sakai is the only Japanese partner we've seen US/Euro steels from.
The Kiwi 4 was a really nice knife but it was too expensive for VG 10. You can buy a Delica with a wharncliffe blade that’s about the same size for far far less. If they re-thought this knife and made it With better blade steel then it might be worth buying. I love how sleek it is.