SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
My Dragonfly has a standard type face for Seki-City, but the Police that I got today looks weird and hand done. It's definitely not a legitimate font. It came in a perfect box with correct foam and in a bubble wrap sleeve. Fit and finish are impeccable. It is super sharp and had protective film attached to the scales.
It was sold and shipped by Amazon.
Real or no?
It was sold and shipped by Amazon.
Real or no?
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
If I had to guess, someone bought a legit model from them, used their liberal return policy, and sent back a fake. Then Amazon put that fake into inventory.
And you were the unfortunate soul that received it.
If it were me, I'd take advantage of that liberal return policy and send it back.
And you were the unfortunate soul that received it.
If it were me, I'd take advantage of that liberal return policy and send it back.
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
Send it back. When it smells counterfeit, it is.
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
Seki has been sending out knives with wonky font like that for a while now. That alone does not signify a fake in my opinion.
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
First I've seen one like that.
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
There were a number of VTOKU 2 Delicas that had the same messy lettering. (I have one) I agree with Darby, this alone isn't enough to call it a fake.
Thread on VTOKU knives lettering - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76780&start=180
Thread on VTOKU knives lettering - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76780&start=180
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
It's definitely a known factory variation. Whatever method they're using to do that engraving, it's being done in a repeatable fashion. All of the little deviations appear to be substantially identical across multiple examples. I'd say it absolutely authenticates your Police.
Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
I purchased a delica zdp-189 from Amazon and it had the same issue. Sent it back and ordered a new one from BHQ to be safe, and it had the same issue. I actually posted about it here like 2 weeks ago, and was told that this issue is not uncommon from recent Seki City models, especially with harder steels. Even Sal chimed in on that thread and said it looked legit. Some folks said the stamps could be wearing out, but Sal pointed out that the etching is more difficult on harder steels. So wonky etching alone does not a counterfeit make.
Photo of my delica zdp.
Photo of my delica zdp.
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
Yes, this is not the first time the issue has come up.bearfacedkiller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:50 amSeki has been sending out knives with wonky font like that for a while now. That alone does not signify a fake in my opinion.
The etching alone does not mean your knife is fake.
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
The Meat man wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:06 pmYes, this is not the first time the issue has come up.bearfacedkiller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:50 amSeki has been sending out knives with wonky font like that for a while now. That alone does not signify a fake in my opinion.
The etching alone does not mean your knife is fake.
Yes, if anything I would say that it means your knife is genuine. I doubt the Chinese are copying a wonky script variation. This same exact lettering was seen on many of the V-Toku knives, which were obviously not fakes.
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
If we’re looking at three different blades and the etching is the same, then I’m eating crow and agreeing with Darby and others that the etching is not enough to declare a counterfeit.Accutron wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:57 pmIt's definitely a known factory variation. Whatever method they're using to do that engraving, it's being done in a repeatable fashion. All of the little deviations appear to be substantially identical across multiple examples. I'd say it absolutely authenticates your Police.
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
I think all said above makes quite clear that the knife is genuine.
That being said: Especially hard steel can't be the main reason for the wonky edging, given that obviously many V Toku 2 blades have it... not exactly the hardest in the world, right?
Looks cool, btw, that edging...
That being said: Especially hard steel can't be the main reason for the wonky edging, given that obviously many V Toku 2 blades have it... not exactly the hardest in the world, right?
Looks cool, btw, that edging...
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- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
Yes it's three different blades. From the top: the OP's Police, JuPaul's ZDP Delica and Sharp Guy's V-Toku2 Delica.
There are other examples shown in this thread, and they're all the same...
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76780&start=180
Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
The seki City wonky text era has begun. Years from now we will all reminisce and search high and low to relive the glory of the wonky text.
Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
Especially since the etching on the v-toku2 run is not even on v-toku2 but on sus410Wartstein wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:23 pmI think all said above makes quite clear that the knife is genuine.
That being said: Especially hard steel can't be the main reason for the wonky edging, given that obviously many V Toku 2 blades have it... not exactly the hardest in the world, right?
Looks cool, btw, that edging...
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
Messed up and double posted
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
Yeah how long will it be before they become highly sought after collector's pieces? :p :D
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
Yep! I have a Delica that was engraved on bring your kid to work day haha I like it! :)
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Re: SEKI-CITY JAPAN looks hand etched
The Meat man wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:02 pm
Yeah how long will it be before they become highly sought after collector's pieces? :p :D
So: Bad luck, that my latest Seki-knife, the Endela, just has the boring, perfect edging... :p :p
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)