Slipjoint mod Para 3

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby Sumdumguy » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:57 pm

spyderg wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:07 am
Fantastic mod! I agree with comments suggesting it would be amazing as a removable part for travel. It also seems like it would be not terribly difficult for Spyderco to tweak their design to allow for a “slipjoint” version using the same handles, (or slightly tweaked as the cutout for lock release becomes unnecessary), lock and nearly the same blades.
I say leave it, so you can close it like you would a standard PM2.

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby Liquid Cobra » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:48 pm

Sumdumguy wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:57 pm
spyderg wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:07 am
Fantastic mod! I agree with comments suggesting it would be amazing as a removable part for travel. It also seems like it would be not terribly difficult for Spyderco to tweak their design to allow for a “slipjoint” version using the same handles, (or slightly tweaked as the cutout for lock release becomes unnecessary), lock and nearly the same blades.
I say leave it, so you can close it like you would a standard PM2.

I would think you can’t close it like a standard para because the comp lock doesn’t engage, meaning you can’t/don’t disengage the lock to close the knife with this mod.
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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby JRinFL » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:17 pm

diRk_262 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:50 pm
Hi all!
This is my first post, hopefully you like it.
I would like to show you a mod i‘ve done to my Para 3.
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Any feedback is welcome :)

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby JonLeBlanc » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:20 pm

How inventive ;)
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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby diRk_262 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:00 am

@Bigrob90 At the moment the stl isn‘t available for purchase or download. I want to see what Spyderco could make out of this idea. After this i will share it with all.

@sal If you pm me your E-Mail I will send you the file.


Because of all this positive feedback I spent some time in my hobbyroom. I milled the part out of Aluminium and grinded it to fit nicely.
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The slipjoint is now even more stable and the look is also better.
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I made a short clip where you can see how this part will be assembled and disassemled.

https://youtu.be/HJUK--8lOGs



The Aluminium is really soft, so that you can see after a about 100 open and closes a wearing where the „lock-ball“ moves. (if you don’t take the pressure from the lock. With this mod you stop using the cut out for unlocking)
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If Spyderco could be produce this part out of hardened steel if would last really really long.

Please don‘t expect to get the same slipjoint like the one on a ukpk with this mod. A normal slipjoint is harder to close. But to convert your locking folder into a legal to carry knife in Germany (and other countrys), without a permanent change to the knife, it does its job really awesome :)

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby G_shark » Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:02 pm

I really like this mod a lot. Great thinking!

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby Sumdumguy » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:30 pm

Liquid Cobra wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:48 pm
Sumdumguy wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:57 pm
spyderg wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:07 am
Fantastic mod! I agree with comments suggesting it would be amazing as a removable part for travel. It also seems like it would be not terribly difficult for Spyderco to tweak their design to allow for a “slipjoint” version using the same handles, (or slightly tweaked as the cutout for lock release becomes unnecessary), lock and nearly the same blades.
I say leave it, so you can close it like you would a standard PM2.

I would think you can’t close it like a standard para because the comp lock doesn’t engage, meaning you can’t/don’t disengage the lock to close the knife with this mod.
It technically still engages, just into a detent. If you were to pinch the lock bar it would still disengage enough for the blade to drop. Unless I'm missing something in the pictures.

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby Liquid Cobra » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:06 pm

Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:30 pm
Liquid Cobra wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:48 pm
Sumdumguy wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:57 pm
spyderg wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:07 am
Fantastic mod! I agree with comments suggesting it would be amazing as a removable part for travel. It also seems like it would be not terribly difficult for Spyderco to tweak their design to allow for a “slipjoint” version using the same handles, (or slightly tweaked as the cutout for lock release becomes unnecessary), lock and nearly the same blades.
I say leave it, so you can close it like you would a standard PM2.

I would think you can’t close it like a standard para because the comp lock doesn’t engage, meaning you can’t/don’t disengage the lock to close the knife with this mod.
It technically still engages, just into a detent. If you were to pinch the lock bar it would still disengage enough for the blade to drop. Unless I'm missing something in the pictures.

Yes, but you could just disengage it by putting pressure on the spine. I see what you mean though.
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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby Sumdumguy » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:51 pm

Liquid Cobra wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:06 pm
Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:30 pm
Liquid Cobra wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:48 pm
Sumdumguy wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:57 pm


I say leave it, so you can close it like you would a standard PM2.

I would think you can’t close it like a standard para because the comp lock doesn’t engage, meaning you can’t/don’t disengage the lock to close the knife with this mod.
It technically still engages, just into a detent. If you were to pinch the lock bar it would still disengage enough for the blade to drop. Unless I'm missing something in the pictures.

Yes, but you could just disengage it by putting pressure on the spine. I see what you mean though.
Yep, part of why I like the compression lock is the drop close(or slight flick). A compression slipjoint sounds interesting because of the combination of features and legal benefits.

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby MMGRenovations » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:02 pm

This is awesome! Nice work!

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby Frozenspyder » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:13 pm

That is brilliant. I'm really impressed.

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby Pelagic » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:54 am

For some reason I feel like this would be fitting for a sprint para 3 with rounded carbon fiber scales, like the s90v native. Satin finish? It'd be a snazzy/modern looking para 3 gentleman's knife.
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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby diRk_262 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:20 pm

Why doesn’t my post show up here?
I replied 2 days ago.

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby diRk_262 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:38 pm

Ah, now is the post about the milled part visible. Perfect.

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby bbturbodad » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:31 pm

diRk_262 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:20 pm
Why doesn’t my post show up here?
I replied 2 days ago.
Here's a detailed explanation from Kristi the main mod that was posted on another forum last week...

"Hey, everyone:
As the primary person responsible for our forum, I thought I should offer some additional details for clarity. Sal was very kind in giving me some privacy, but I'm willing to share. I was out of the office for a few weeks because my Mom passed away. In all honesty, her health had been rapidly declining for the past several months so I've been in and out of the office quite a bit. Most people are aware that I'm usually online or at least available to be online unless I'm asleep or on a plane :))) but this was different for obvious reasons.

I'm working through close to just over 700 e-mails (not all, of course, are related to the forum)...

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby sal » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:25 pm

Thanx Turbodad.

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby W7H2O » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:33 pm

Man that is wunderbar. Just think of the potential of that.

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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby curlyhairedboy » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:37 pm

That's super clever!
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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby Reject » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:56 pm

:) Nice design.

The slip joint knives I have used. usually have a mid stop when closing the blade. If you were making that design from a new blade blank. Would it be worth adding a third shallower indent between the open and closed position to create that mid stop?
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Re: Slipjoint mod Para 3

Postby senorsquare » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:46 am

Fantastic design. This mod would be perfect for the comp lock Lil' Native, a knife that I love to carry but would serve me better as a slipjoint.


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