Wartstein wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:53 pm
DSH007 wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:37 pm
I personally think the Para 3 is a great knife. For me, sometimes the appeal of a knife lies in its balance in a number of areas - carryability, edc functionality, ergonomics, steel, corrosion resistance, etc. - Some knives may excel in one category or another, but I find that I gravitate towards knives that are "pretty good" in as many categories as possible. I think that is why the Para 3 is a great knife for me. Sure, it's maybe not the "best" at or in any one category.. but, depending on the configuration, it's pretty d*** good at all of them.
I totally respect your opinion and I am with you that in such a question a lot of subjectivity is involved!
Still, let me explain why I personally respectfully disagree with some of your points:
- Carryability: I think, for that quite small amount of edge you actually get, you have to carry quite a bulky package, compared to for example Delica, or Sage, let alone Chaparral
- EDC functionality: Again, for carrying such a rather bulky closed knife, there is too little edge for many EDC tasks. Plus, the 3.7 mm bladestock is imho not necessary at all in such a small knife, and lessens its slicing capabilities (Chap 2mm, Delica 2.5mm, Sage 3.0 mm)
- Ergonomics: I admit, I never OWNED a Para 3. But my hand JUST so and so fits on the regular handle of the PM 2, so the Para 3 will certainly be too small for a good 4 finger grip behind the choil. That means, on an actually quite long handle (consider the "hook" at the end!) I HAVE to choke up for a good four finger grip.. don´t like that, when the total handle length in fact WOULD offer enough space for a good 4 finger grip if shaped differently
Again, I totally respect your opinion and am glad, that with the Para 3 Spyderco obviously has made a knife many people enjoy!
My points are just my contribution to the discussion and only my 2 cents of course.
Hey Wartstein! I don’t think there is anything at all wrong with disagreeing with someone else, especially when it comes to knives, and I appreciate that you are able to communicate your opinions respectfully.
After reading your comments, I pulled out a Para 3 and a Delica to compare. (I’ve never handled a Sage so I can’t speak to that particular model, and I consider the Chaparral (great knife!) too small to offer a truly fair comparison to the Para 3.. kind of an apples-to-oranges thing.) A few observations/thoughts:
You are absolutely correct, the Delica does have a narrower overall profile in the pocket, especially at the “hump” of the thumbhole opener. But only slightly.. maybe a few fractions of an inch/centimeter. When laid down next to each other on the non-pocket-clip scale, again yes, the Delica is thinner than the Para 3, but only by maybe half the thickness of a g10 scale. So yes.. technically, the Delica does have a smaller profile, but overall, I’d say they are pretty similarly sized knifes. Yes, it may be “bulkier” than the Delica, but I don’t think the added girth in the Para 3 constitutes “bulkiness” overall. And if it does to some.. well for me, let’s just say I’m not trying to fit my knives into any skinny jeans. In my head, the Para 3 does not occupy an unreasonable amount of space in the pocket and I can carry it comfortably. I do have a deep carry pocket clip on my Para 3 which helps out with this considerably..
Where I must disagree with you is where you state “there is too little edge for many edc tasks.” Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this statement is untrue.. it may very well be the case for you that there is too little edge for your preferences. For me though.. I do not find edge length on the Para 3 to be an issue. Comparing with the Delica..which, correct me if I’m wrong, you seem to insinuate is sufficient for your edc tasks.. the Para 3 has an almost identical sharpened edge length.. in fact, it may beat out the Delica by “just the tip.” (haha, I’m eye-balling these measurements.. not real scientific, I know..). I also do not find that the Para 3’s blade thickness hinders a majority of cutting tasks that I’ve used it for. No, it’s certainly not the longest blade out there, or the sliciest but it is generally more than sufficient for me.
With regard to ergos, I will concede that I do also have trouble getting a good full four finger grip behind the choil on the Para 3. My pinky finger rests kind of on/behind that “hook” you mention. I don’t necessarily find this uncomfortable, but it is not ideal. That said, I’m a fan of choils.. which seems to be another controversial opinion I have, depending on who you ask.. and I find the Para 3 to be quite comfortable, even more so than the Delica, when gripped using the choil.
I guess when it comes down to it, I’m just reiterating my original point. The Para 3 is not necessarily “the best” at any one category, but its overall balance of being “pretty good” in a number of categories is what appeals to me and, I think, is what appeals to so many other users as well. If I know I’m going to need a knife for a specific task, I’ll carry a larger knife, or a smaller knife, or a slicier knife, or a more comfortable knife. But as an all-around edc knife, I can put a Para 3 in my pocket and go about my day knowing that I’ll probably be ok using it for any basic cutting tasks that may come up. When I go on a trip, or on vacation, and don’t have access to my entire collection, there is probably a Para 3 in my pocket for this reason. Or a Native. Or the Brouwer. A well-balanced, "all-around" knife that fills a variety of roles pretty well. I certainly appreciate that kind of balance in a knife and I think it’s pretty awesome that Spyderco offers so many great knives for us to choose from!
When it comes to knives, I don’t think that there are any wrong opinions. Some people just like what they like and dislike what they dislike and nothing anyone says is going to change that (think choils, tip-up vs. tip down, lock preference, Boye dents, scale preference, and on and on..). And of course there is the undeniable subjectivity of it all.. hell, everything I've just written here praising the Para 3 may go right out the window if the person reading it has a different sized hand than mine! How could I possibly tell that person that they are wrong for disliking a knife that they cannot hold comfortably?! If someone disagrees with you, their opinions aren't wrong.. they're just different. And that's ok!
Anyways.. I always try to appreciate different perspectives than my own.. thanks for sharing you thoughts Wartstein, and hopefully I haven't bored you and everyone else to death with mine!
..well, that escalated quickly..