zhyla wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:45 pm
Naperville wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:51 pm
zhyla wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:32 pm
The last thing we need is an Rc arms race.
I don’t have the faintest clue what Rc any of my Spyderco knives are. Somehow they all work great.
Are you saying that you would be fine with a Benchmade folder in 3V with an HRC of 56? That is what started these discussions two weeks ago.
Does it work well? Then yes.
“Work well” means different things, to different people. In addition to Steve bending the blade and breaking the handle, he also did an edge retention test with it. Taped off 1” section, his standard edge finish for testing, etc. When Steve tests, he uses two marks— fine edge is defined as losing its ability to shave arm hair, working edge means dulling or a catch forming have caused the knife to stop cleanly cutting paper. Sounds very backyard, but it turns out, it yields a lot of predictable, repeatable results.
The 3V at 56hrc did about 112 feet fine edge, and an additional 0 feet of working edge. The same thing happened in that test with an Emerson in 154cm at 56 or 57 hrc, at 107 feet.
58+ should really be a baseline expectation with many steels. Not all steels behave the same, of course, so... LC200N, for example, is very good with a good process to land at 58. But, for the most part, sub-58 is hot garbage.
So... who really cares, right? Who’s going to notice? It’s not uncommon for me to cut 100+ feet of cardboard, 30+ zip ties, and 20+ plastic banding straps in a couple hours at work. This is part of why I became interested in these things. That 56hrc 3V? I’d crash the apex a couple hours into my day. Remember also that sharpening = removing material, and removing material = thickening the knife up behind the edge. You also spend time doing so.
This is all 100% about ownership experience.