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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby Wartstein » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:05 am

ferider wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:03 am
Fascinating to see that the Harrier is better build than the Endela.
In what aspects? I skipped the Harrier part of the vid...(and can't watch it right now..)
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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby ferider » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:14 am

Wartstein wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:05 am
ferider wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:03 am
Fascinating to see that the Harrier is better build than the Endela.
In what aspects? I skipped the Harrier part of the vid...(and can't watch it right now..)
Steel back-spacer and peel-ply G10.

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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby Wartstein » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:23 am

ferider wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:14 am
Wartstein wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:05 am
ferider wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:03 am
Fascinating to see that the Harrier is better build than the Endela.
In what aspects? I skipped the Harrier part of the vid...(and can't watch it right now..)
Steel back-spacer and peel-ply G10.
Thanks a lot! Though I still prefer the Endela FRN.
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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby rangefinder » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:58 am

The "sun" side looks like a Japanese flag. I think a blue scale with a yellow dot would be a better combo for the "sun" side.

OTOH, it'd be interesting to have knife scales that are flag patterns. A UKPK with Union Jack scales is an obvious combo.

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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby ABX2011 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:38 am

rangefinder wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:58 am
OTOH, it'd be interesting to have knife scales that are flag patterns. A UKPK with Union Jack scales is an obvious combo.
They did that - Spyderco Pride - https://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=62
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The "sun" side looks like a Japanese flag. I think a blue scale with a yellow dot would be a better combo for the "sun" side.
I agree with you. Hope this doesn't sound harsh but upon further reflection I think this new Chaparral is a total dud.
When I see all these modern traditionals from Lion Steel, I wonder why can't Spyderco offer this knife with various woods, bone, stag, etc. Or at least Pakkawood and burlap micarta if natural materials are an issue for them.
I suppose we will something like that in the future.

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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby Wartstein » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:15 pm

rangefinder wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:58 am
The "sun" side looks like a Japanese flag. I think a blue scale with a yellow dot would be a better combo for the "sun" side.
I probably could agree if solely looking at a single "sun" scale. But as a combo, the one side black and one side white is very cool imho.
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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby steelcity16 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:46 pm

rangefinder wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:58 am

The "sun" side looks like a Japanese flag. I think a blue scale with a yellow dot would be a better combo for the "sun" side.
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I thought the same thing about the Japanese flag. Blue and yellow would have been cool. This still looks really nice though.
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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby zhyla » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:27 pm

ABX2011 wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:38 am
I agree with you. Hope this doesn't sound harsh but upon further reflection I think this new Chaparral is a total dud.
When I see all these modern traditionals from Lion Steel, I wonder why can't Spyderco offer this knife with various woods, bone, stag, etc. Or at least Pakkawood and burlap micarta if natural materials are an issue for them.
I suppose we will something like that in the future.
The chap is a very thin knife with nested liners. Wood and bone aren’t trivial to machine that thin.

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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby Wartstein » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:57 pm

steelcity16 wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:46 pm
rangefinder wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:58 am

The "sun" side looks like a Japanese flag. I think a blue scale with a yellow dot would be a better combo for the "sun" side.
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I thought the same thing about the Japanese flag. I think it looks cool, but it looks like smooth G10 to me, which is a deal breaker. I don't really do gentlemans knives. I like good old textured FRN, peel ply G10, and rough matte canvas micarta.
I really like the style of the sun and moon Chap (way more than the raffir noble, which is not for me), but I am with you that smooth G10 normally is not what I want.

Don't know if you meant, that the Chap generally is a gentlemans knife (or just in smooth G10). In fact it is much more than this (at least for me): A surprisingly sturdy cutting monster, and almost like an independent, very usefull little bushcraft tool, additional to a big knife...
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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby Baron Mind » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:05 pm

Normally I'm all for grippy g10 and frn, but lately I've been looking for something a little less performance oriented, something with a nice premium look and feel. Not necessarily a gentleman's folder, but a nice high quality edc knife, not a work knife per se. I was strongly considering a Brouwer, but I think this just cut in line. I prefer backlocks to framelocks, and I prefer thinner blades. Home run for me

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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby TomAiello » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:41 pm

This is pretty much an automatic buy for me.

Polished G-10 on a Chaparral? Home run!

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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby steelcity16 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:43 pm

Wartstein wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:57 pm
steelcity16 wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:46 pm
rangefinder wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:58 am

The "sun" side looks like a Japanese flag. I think a blue scale with a yellow dot would be a better combo for the "sun" side.


I thought the same thing about the Japanese flag. I think it looks cool, but it looks like smooth G10 to me, which is a deal breaker. I don't really do gentlemans knives. I like good old textured FRN, peel ply G10, and rough matte canvas micarta.

I really like the style of the sun and moon Chap (way more than the raffir noble, which is not for me), but I am with you that smooth G10 normally is not what I want.

Don't know if you meant, that the Chap generally is a gentlemans knife (or just in smooth G10). In fact it is much more than this (at least for me): A surprisingly sturdy cutting monster, and almost like an independent, very usefull little bushcraft tool, additional to a big knife...


I meant the the smooth G10 makes it more of a gentleman's knife than an EDC user for me. I have the Chap LW and love it. It has been in my pocket the most of any knife since I bought it last year.

I really think the Chap LW is a perfect knife. One of my dream knives would be a Chap LW Salt with Neon Glow in the Dark FRN Scales and DLC coated LC200N blades. I'd buy this in PE, SE and CE! I also really want St. Nicks to do a Chap LW Exclusive in the Red FRN DLC 4V combo since we know 4 V can be used in Taiwan (Province Bowie).

I've actually been hoping they would do a Chap with wafer thin coarse Peel Ply G10 scales. Maybe that could be the St Nicks Red DLC 4V exclusive??
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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby steelcity16 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:48 pm

Although...I do have a wedding to go to soon and this one would look a lot classier with my suit than my FRN knives. When is this gonna hit the shelves again??? :D
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Postby RadioactiveSpyder » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:00 pm

Polished G10 looks quite nice on the Chap... ;)

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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby araneae » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:50 pm

Wartstein wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:27 am
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It looks awesome in person. Some fun stuff in the proto case this year.

Sounds like Shaman fans have a lot coming this year. Waved D'fly is dropping any minute, Endela is real close, wharncliffe D'fly is not quite there yet although I officially requested a hap40 run today.
May I ask: What was said about the Shaman in the vid? Must have missed that...
Not from the video, Eric said there are a number of exclusives in the pipeline.
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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby araneae » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:46 pm

ferider wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:03 am
Fascinating to see that the Harrier is better build than the Endela. I guess the cost reduction that comes with LW builds doesn't matter much in China. :)
That's very debatable. Having handled both, there's no comparison that the better build quality knife is the Endela. The Harrier is nice, but built to different standards,
So many knives, so few pockets... :)
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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby araneae » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:47 pm

ABX2011 wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:38 am

I agree with you. Hope this doesn't sound harsh but upon further reflection I think this new Chaparral is a total dud.
When I see all these modern traditionals from Lion Steel, I wonder why can't Spyderco offer this knife with various woods, bone, stag, etc. Or at least Pakkawood and burlap micarta if natural materials are an issue for them.
I suppose we will something like that in the future.
There were no less than 3, maybe 4 wood handled Chaps in the case today.
So many knives, so few pockets... :)
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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby toocool006 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:51 pm

araneae wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:47 pm

There were no less than 3, maybe 4 wood handled Chaps in the case today.

:eek: :D :D :D :D :spyder:

Also definitely in for a sun & moon Chappie. Any ideas on pricing yet?
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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby Baron Mind » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:58 pm

RadioactiveSpyder wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:00 pm
Polished G10 looks quite nice on the Chap... ;)

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Re: Sun and Moon Chaparall :O !!!

Postby steelcity16 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:38 pm

ABX2011 wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:38 am

I agree with you. Hope this doesn't sound harsh but upon further reflection I think this new Chaparral is a total dud.
When I see all these modern traditionals from Lion Steel, I wonder why can't Spyderco offer this knife with various woods, bone, stag, etc. Or at least Pakkawood and burlap micarta if natural materials are an issue for them.
I suppose we will something like that in the future.

I think I might get this as the more I think about it I probably should have at least one "gentleman's knife" in my collection.

From a scale material perspective, I'd like to see natural Ram's Horn, Antique Green Jigged Bone, natural Abalone, turquoise composite pinecone, and rough matte OD Green canvas Micarta in future Chaps.
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