Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

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Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby AlexRus » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:14 pm

Hi guys,
Any news on upcoming Millies? Anyone knows?

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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby steelcity16 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:20 pm

Nada. Nothin. Zero. Zilch. And now they are telling dealers not to release info on upcoming exclusives (or so I was told) so basically if there is one coming we won't know until the dealer has them in hand. Bummer I know. :(

A new CQI version in DLC CPM-CRUWEAR would be a pleasant surprise.
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Postby DirtMcGirt » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:23 pm

I’m hoping knifeworks eventually does the gray/black with 52100 Military, like their manix.
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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby JonLeBlanc » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:21 pm

DirtMcGirt wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:23 pm
I’m hoping knifeworks eventually does the gray/black with 52100 Military, like their manix.
Mmmm donuts...
My collection so far: 52100 Military (2); 52100 PM2 (2); 52100 Para3; Stretch2 V-Toku; KnifeWorks M4 PM2; BentoBox M390 PM2; BentoBox S90V Military; Police4 K390; S110V PM2; SS Delica AUS-6; Wayne Goddard Sprint VG-10
Wish list: Hundred Pacer; Sliverax; Mantra; 52100 PM2 SE; Kapara

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Postby TkoK83Spy » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:28 pm

Yea I would jump all over that. Love my Manix!
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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby Bloke » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:38 pm

Still patiently awaiting a Maxamet Military. :)
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Postby JonLeBlanc » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:55 pm

steelcity16 wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:20 pm
Nada. Nothin. Zero. Zilch. And now they are telling dealers not to release info on upcoming exclusives (or so I was told) so basically if there is one coming we won't know until the dealer has them in hand. Bummer I know. :(

A new CQI version in DLC CPM-CRUWEAR would be a pleasant surprise.
You know, I can understand the new Reveal policy, but that sort of thing (no announcements of exclusives until etc) I just can't wrap my head around. Some people might need to, I dunno, prepare their finances, get thine house in order etc. Maybe I'm just reacting badly to an unconfirmed report, but I'm not sure if I like the sound of that. :confused: not everyone can say "oh a new CruWear Military just fell from the sky, ok here's 200 smackers right now..."
My collection so far: 52100 Military (2); 52100 PM2 (2); 52100 Para3; Stretch2 V-Toku; KnifeWorks M4 PM2; BentoBox M390 PM2; BentoBox S90V Military; Police4 K390; S110V PM2; SS Delica AUS-6; Wayne Goddard Sprint VG-10
Wish list: Hundred Pacer; Sliverax; Mantra; 52100 PM2 SE; Kapara

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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:32 pm

JonLeBlanc wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:55 pm
steelcity16 wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:20 pm
Nada. Nothin. Zero. Zilch. And now they are telling dealers not to release info on upcoming exclusives (or so I was told) so basically if there is one coming we won't know until the dealer has them in hand. Bummer I know. :(

A new CQI version in DLC CPM-CRUWEAR would be a pleasant surprise.
You know, I can understand the new Reveal policy, but that sort of thing (no announcements of exclusives until etc) I just can't wrap my head around. Some people might need to, I dunno, prepare their finances, get thine house in order etc. Maybe I'm just reacting badly to an unconfirmed report, but I'm not sure if I like the sound of that. :confused: not everyone can say "oh a new CruWear Military just fell from the sky, ok here's 200 smackers right now..."
This exactly!
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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby steelcity16 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:47 pm

DirtMcGirt wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:23 pm
I’m hoping knifeworks eventually does the gray/black with 52100 Military, like their manix.

I know this is a Millie thread but I REALLY want a Native in the Grey DLC 52100 combo! There has already been a 52100 Millie. Give the Native a turn!! :D
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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby RadioactiveSpyder » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:13 pm

For the record, there NEVER has been a policy to reveal exclusives before the dealer who commissioned them announced them. You’re confusing exclusives with Spyderco sprint runs, which are indeed now adhering to their new reveal policy.
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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby JonLeBlanc » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:44 pm

RadioactiveSpyder wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:13 pm
For the record, there NEVER has been a policy to reveal exclusives before the dealer who commissioned them announced them. You’re confusing exclusives with Spyderco sprint runs, which are indeed now adhering to their new reveal policy.
Indeed I regret reacting badly to what is essentially just a rumor, but what steelcity said is not quite the same as your clarification. I reckon it would probably be best if we could get some sort of confirmation of any change in policy (which is what he reported, if I read it right) before engaging in speculation. It's rarely helpful, but tempting, and I give in to it too often myself.
My collection so far: 52100 Military (2); 52100 PM2 (2); 52100 Para3; Stretch2 V-Toku; KnifeWorks M4 PM2; BentoBox M390 PM2; BentoBox S90V Military; Police4 K390; S110V PM2; SS Delica AUS-6; Wayne Goddard Sprint VG-10
Wish list: Hundred Pacer; Sliverax; Mantra; 52100 PM2 SE; Kapara

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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby steelcity16 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:12 pm

RadioactiveSpyder wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:13 pm

For the record, there NEVER has been a policy to reveal exclusives before the dealer who commissioned them announced them. You’re confusing exclusives with Spyderco sprint runs, which are indeed now adhering to their new reveal policy.

To clarify my earlier statement, a dealer who had told me about their upcoming exclusives before they were announced many times in the past gave me the below reply when I asked when we would see a Para 3 LW in their exclusive combination.

"steelcity16,
Spyderco has asked that we not release details on future exclusives until they’re ready to drop. I do greatly appreciate steel/model suggestions, as we have quite a list of requests into Spyderco for projects to quote."

So to me, it sounds like the new reveal policy has been extended to dealer/distributor exclusives. I am guessing that this is why the Earth Brown DLC M390 Manix "coming soon" listings were pulled from all of the dealer websites as well.

Lastly, think about the last couple of exclusives. We have had a few days notice, if that. The Pakkawood Ladybug came out of no where. In the past dealers would sometimes announce exclusives a month or more in advance.

So to be clear, I do not know all of the facts, I am just communicating what I was told and what I have observed on the recent exclusives. Take this info with a grain of LC200N. :D
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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby JonLeBlanc » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:00 am

steelcity16 wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:12 pm
RadioactiveSpyder wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:13 pm

For the record, there NEVER has been a policy to reveal exclusives before the dealer who commissioned them announced them. You’re confusing exclusives with Spyderco sprint runs, which are indeed now adhering to their new reveal policy.

To clarify my earlier statement, a dealer who had told me about their upcoming exclusives before they were announced many times in the past gave me the below reply when I asked when we would see a Para 3 LW in their exclusive combination.

"steelcity16,
Spyderco has asked that we not release details on future exclusives until they’re ready to drop. I do greatly appreciate steel/model suggestions, as we have quite a list of requests into Spyderco for projects to quote."

So to me, it sounds like the new reveal policy has been extended to dealer/distributor exclusives. I am guessing that this is why the Earth Brown DLC M390 Manix "coming soon" listings were pulled from all of the dealer websites as well.

Lastly, think about the last couple of exclusives. We have had a few days notice, if that. The Pakkawood Ladybug came out of no where. In the past dealers would sometimes announce exclusives a month or more in advance.

So to be clear, I do not know all of the facts, I am just communicating what I was told and what I have observed on the recent exclusives. Take this info with a grain of LC200N. :D
Thank you for that, IF it is really the case that Spyderco has made such a policy, then as I said I can't really wrap my head around it.
My collection so far: 52100 Military (2); 52100 PM2 (2); 52100 Para3; Stretch2 V-Toku; KnifeWorks M4 PM2; BentoBox M390 PM2; BentoBox S90V Military; Police4 K390; S110V PM2; SS Delica AUS-6; Wayne Goddard Sprint VG-10
Wish list: Hundred Pacer; Sliverax; Mantra; 52100 PM2 SE; Kapara

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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby Pancake » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:23 am

Right now I have need to buy a large folder. I would buy a Military sprint run, maybe in some nice carbon or tool steel......but please no execusive, I want to buy here in some europien shop.
So maybe some 50100, or CruWear.....

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Postby jdw » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:31 am

I agree. It makes no sense to me. If you have bought the rights to the ownership of the exclusive wouldn't you own the marketing rights as well? To be clear, I have no idea how how these things work.
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Postby RadioactiveSpyder » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 am

Having a random dealer rep drop a tidbit on the forum about possible upcoming releases is still not an official reveal policy. Do all vendors do this? Plus, don’t lose the forest for the trees here, what exclusives are ever shown in an official Spyderco catalog, mid-year supplement or now Release volume?
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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby steelcity16 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:10 am

RadioactiveSpyder wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 am

Having a random dealer rep drop a tidbit on the forum about possible upcoming releases is still not an official reveal policy. Do all vendors do this? Plus, don’t lose the forest for the trees here, what exclusives are ever shown in an official Spyderco catalog, mid-year supplement or now Release volume?

I agree that there was probably not an official reveal policy in the past for dealer exclusives and I understand that they were never official revealed through the Spyderco website or catalog. Some dealers posted their upcoming exclusives on social media, forums, and/or their website weeks or months before the drop date. Some dealers had pre-orders for their exclusives weeks or months before they were in hand. Some dealers just dropped it on their website out of nowhere when they were in stock. Some gave me all the details of everything they had in the pipeline when I asked and some kept it all close to the vest. No real consistency there.


Take a look at the recent exclusives...

A DLT Trading Exclusive DLC 20CV PM2 collector club knife was on eBay before DLT had even announced this knife. Shortly after that thread was made on here they announced it would be dropped in a few days on their website. They probably thought the cat was out of the bag so its cool to talk about it now.

BentoBox dropped their M390 Delica hints on Facebook just a few days before the sale. But last year they put their M390 Para 3 up for pre-sale on 1/5/18, almost two months in advance of the scheduled 2/28/18 ship date.

The Knifeworks Pakkawood Ladybug was in stock and for sale with no heads up at all.


The point I am trying the make, is that based on the reply I posted above from the store owner (not a random dealer rep) who has given me info on all of their upcoming exclusives in the past, it sounds to me like Spyderco has now told dealers to not release any info about their exclusives until they are in hand. So essentially, we are unlikely to know about upcoming Military exclusives until they have arrived at the dealer and/or the collector club knives start hitting eBay/youtube. Hoping this clarifies things. Again, not trying to stir the pot or cause anyone grief here.

P.S. For the record, I do know about a number of upcoming exclusives from conversations with multiple dealers before any of the policy changes. Some really exciting stuff coming, but unfortunately I am sworn to secrecy as well!! :D No Millies that I have heard of though sadly. :(
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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby Hopweaver » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:17 am

Waiting until the last minute to 'Reveal' an expensive consumer product is a poor marketing strategy. Let's face it, none of us on this forum actually NEED another pocket knife. But most of us do need to save up our discretionary money in order to purchase another one.

I think Spyderco should change to a 90 day policy on release notifications. That sounds like a fair compromise. It is better than the old process that drove millenials crazy when it took over a year (or more) to see a model after it appeared in the catalog. And 90 days should be plenty of time to allow for consumer marketing and also give a person enough time to save up enough $$$ for that next Millie! :)
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Re: Any upcoming Millies? Sprintruns or Exclusive?

Postby TomAiello » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:41 am

I'd love to see a k390 military. Not as sure about Maxamet, but I'd probably buy that one just to check it out.

I think the military would be cool in a really tough steel, like 3v, Sleipner, or 52100. I'm still hoping that the Italians convince Sal to sprint something in Sleipner. ;)


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