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Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 11:13 am
by AshK
I recently got my hands on a Schempp Tuff and it's quickly rocketed close to the top of my Spyderco list.

What an impressive knife! Every part of the design just seems to come together so well, and the fit and finish are exceptional.

Given that these knives are hard to find, and that most owners seem to treasure them, I'd think a sprint run or an exclusive would sell out in a hurry despite the inevitable high price.

This would be particularly true if it was done with full Ti construction or in one of the newer steels - not that I'd turn my nose up at another 3V run.

Any love out there for the Tuff? Enough for a sprint run? I know it's been asked before but man... this is a knife that needs to be available new again. I'd buy one at the very least and I suspect most owners would do the same.

Share your Tuff photos and experiences - maybe we can kick this beast back to life!

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 2:58 pm
by AshK
Bumping this back up - it got a bit lost waiting for my "new guy post" to be approved but it's too great a knife to get forgotten.

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 5:45 pm
by rodloos
I'm very fond of mine, but I don't think its sales were enough to justify a sprint run, most likely. Mine is a very well-executed knife though.

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:30 pm
by Doc Dan
I would not hold my breath. Spyderco does make knives that are out on the edge but this one was pretty far out and I do not think it sold well.

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 9:26 pm
by The Meat man
How much did it cost back when it was in production? MAP?

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 9:35 pm
by knivesandbooks
I would love to have one of these reground. If they brough this back with a very aggressive grind, especially a convex or high hollow, like a CRK, it would be Spyderco's answer to a Medford or something along those lines. I do think that one of the reasons they didn't sell well was due to the thick edge. I've heard that brought up in discussions about them, at least. Also, heavy.

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 11:05 pm
by steelcity16
I'd rather have the CPM-3V make an appearance in some different models. I'm into the LW models for the summer, so throw some into the Manix LW and Para 3 LW and I'll be all over it!

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 11:54 pm
by SF Native
The tuff has become a real cult classic.
I don’t think many people knew what to think of it when it came out. I wouldn’t mind seeing a little cqi on this and a sprint run. Maybe one day.
Could do that with a few of the schempp models.

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 12:40 am
by BornIn1500
steelcity16 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 11:05 pm
I'd rather have the CPM-3V make an appearance in some different models. I'm into the LW models for the summer, so throw some into the Manix LW and Para 3 LW and I'll be all over it!

3V on a lightweight?

https://youtu.be/u5GlxcIFs-g?t=2118

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 4:39 am
by curlyhairedboy
Part of the Tuff's appeal for me was the steel - if we can get 3V in a more current model (the shaman, for instance) I think it would move units quickly.

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:33 pm
by AshK
Man I was hoping for a hugely enthusiastic response from hundreds of Tuff lovers that'd echo all the way to Sal's ears :)

I still reckon an updated Tuff in 3V would be a hot sprint run item - it's such a distinctive knife. What's the minimum order for an Exclusive?

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:36 pm
by Cali HogHead
The Tuff is the most I've paid for a knife, new or used. Got one for under $500, second hand but unused, and would do it again. I intend to carry it more frequently as my sharpening skills increase. It's unique style and mix of titanium and g-10 with an exotic steel make it a grail knife to me. I would definitely be interested in a Sprint or Exclusive.

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:47 pm
by TomAiello
I'd love to have a Tuff. And I'd love to have it in 3v.

If a sprint needed to be a new steel, maybe Cruwear or Sleipner would fit the bill, but I'd personally rather have it in 3v than either of those.

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 10:51 am
by errickkr
joined the hype late and will definitely get one if there's a new ones

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 5:58 pm
by AshK
Well, I just bought another Tuff (BNIB) for very close to Paysan money (and that's the most I've ever paid for a knife, same as Cali HogHead).

So clearly I'm nuts about that knife and it's a grail for me, but it seems that buyers were lining up behind me wanting to grab it if I didn't, so I might not be the only crazy one :D

Where's the dealer that thinks an exclusive of these things would sell and sell fast? Who's got a rep for slightly left field exclusives?

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 6:23 pm
by Evil D
I was really crushed that the production version didn't get the same titanium pattern that the prototype got. If it somehow came back with that pattern I'd be very interested.


In case you have no idea what I'm talking about..

Prototype..
Image

Production..
Image

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 6:36 pm
by AshK
Evil D wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 6:23 pm
I was really crushed that the production version didn't get the same titanium pattern that the prototype got. If it somehow came back with that pattern I'd be very interested.
Yeah I'm torn. The prototype looks better to me - more thought out and less clunky but there's something about the drilled version that's just right for that knife. I'd like to have one of each thank you very much - when the first sprint run sells out, they can do another...

(Although the prototype pivot bites! Glad that didn't make the cut).

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 6:38 pm
by Evil D
AshK wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 6:36 pm
Evil D wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 6:23 pm
I was really crushed that the production version didn't get the same titanium pattern that the prototype got. If it somehow came back with that pattern I'd be very interested.
Yeah I'm torn. The prototype looks better to me - more thought out and less clunky but there's something about the drilled version that's just right for that knife. I'd like to have one of each thank you very much - when the first sprint run sells out, they can do another...

I want the prototype scale pattern with the production pivot. The dimples just felt like a consolation prize after seeing the proto.

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 7:04 pm
by SF Native
AshK wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 5:33 pm
Man I was hoping for a hugely enthusiastic response from hundreds of Tuff lovers that'd echo all the way to Sal's ears :)

I still reckon an updated Tuff in 3V would be a hot sprint run item - it's such a distinctive knife. What's the minimum order for an Exclusive?
Sorry I was not more enthusiastic.
I really want a tuff. I have considered getting one off eBay but never quite pulled the trigger. I think I would prefer this in 4v. Not sure the 3v really offers anything over the 4v.
As I said earlier, a tuff2 (like techno2 treatment) would be my preference. 4v, thinner blade by a little bit, and let’s roll. I really want one of these.

Re: Tuff Love - Any Hope of a Sprint Run?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 7:08 pm
by VashHash
The choil killed it for me. If they made a run without the choil I would buy one.