Why Doesn't Spyderco Use the Military Handle More?

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Why Doesn't Spyderco Use the Military Handle More?

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I am home sick, really sick, so I have been posting a lot more due to sheer boredom. Sorry.

The Military has the best handle shape of any of the large Spyderco knives I have handled. Even the choil does not bug ( :p ) me, as it does on all other knives. Why doesn't Spyderco use this handle on more knives. The Endura, for example, would be a better knife, at least I think so. Of course, it would also be longer in the pocket and maybe that is the reason. In any case, the Military has superior ergonomics for a large folder.
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On my understanding, the Military was designed (inter alia) to be used while wearing gloves, so while that does make for a good ergonomic shape all-around, a glove friendly design may not necessarily be the specific intention behind other knife handles. I do agree with you though that the Millie style handle deserves to be seen more often! Come to think of it, doesn't the Matriarch (or maybe Civilian?) also have sort of a Millie handle? I'd have to check on that...
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Hey Doc, hope you feel better soon!

I remember seeing a picture here once of a modified Endura with Military style handle scales. I should try to find it.
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I'd like to see that Connor
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Hi Doc,

Hope you feel better.

Some handles are just unique to certain models. The Military, Cricket, etc. Eric has discussed making some other blade shapes for the Millie. Do you think there would be demand?

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sal wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:22 am
Hi Doc,

Hope you feel better.

Some handles are just unique to certain models. The Military, Cricket, etc. Eric has discussed making some other blade shapes for the Millie. Do you think there would be demand?

sal
Hi Sal,

I love to carry and use the Military. I'd like to see a blade similar but with a stronger tip. Maybe let us see some of these ideas.
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bearrowland wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 10:25 am
I'd like to see that Connor

Hi Barry,

Finally found it. :) Here are some of the pictures of the Militarized Endura:

BOOMER52 wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:35 pm
I tried out 'Militura' as a name for this MOD... but it didn't stick.  I've slipped back into referring to it as Endura/Military. 

Here are some pics of one that's mostly but not quite all OD green... frag blast texture... w/matching Delica/Lil'para...

Image
Image
Image

And the thread from which they came:

 viewtopic.php?f=6&t=43214&start=2800
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I like that! That's a great combo. Thanks for finding that Connor!
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Mini2white wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:34 am
sal wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:22 am
Hi Doc,

Hope you feel better.

Some handles are just unique to certain models. The Military, Cricket, etc. Eric has discussed making some other blade shapes for the Millie. Do you think there would be demand?

sal
Hi Sal,

I love to carry and use the Military. I'd like to see a blade similar but with a stronger tip. Maybe let us see some of these ideas.

I agree, something a little more Tenacious like or Pacific Salt like.

I've been saying for a long time that one of my dream knives is a Day Glow Semi Translucent Neon Yellow G10 Military Salt with DLC H1 SE and H1 PE blades that are as similar to the Pacific Salt blades as will fit in the Military handle. It would be the ultimate hard use outdoor/yard/salt/gloved hands folder.
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The Meat man wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:55 am
bearrowland wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 10:25 am
I'd like to see that Connor

Hi Barry,

Finally found it. :) Here are some of the pictures of the Militarized Endura:

BOOMER52 wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:35 pm
I tried out 'Militura' as a name for this MOD... but it didn't stick.  I've slipped back into referring to it as Endura/Military. 

Here are some pics of one that's mostly but not quite all OD green... frag blast texture... w/matching Delica/Lil'para...

Image
Image
Image

And the thread from which they came:

 viewtopic.php?f=6&t=43214&start=2800
I thought about getting one of those built so I could have a "backlock Military." Very slick mod!

Wharncliffe Millie, anyone???
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sal wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:22 am
Hi Doc,

....Eric has discussed making some other blade shapes for the Millie. Do you think there would be demand?

sal
Just some ideas of things I personally would like to see in that regard:

Stouter tip (Endura-like)
Thinner bladestock
Longer blade (=better blade/handle ratio)
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That is the idea I had independently for a Militarized Endura, that I asked sal about in the other thread. Thanks for posting this.
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sal wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:22 am
Hi Doc,

Hope you feel better.

Some handles are just unique to certain models. The Military, Cricket, etc. Eric has discussed making some other blade shapes for the Millie. Do you think there would be demand?

sal

I will literally pay you right now for a wharnie Military, especially if it retains some negative blade angle. If it also happens to be LN200N and SE I'll buy two.
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Evil D wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 3:10 pm
sal wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:22 am
Hi Doc,

Hope you feel better.

Some handles are just unique to certain models. The Military, Cricket, etc. Eric has discussed making some other blade shapes for the Millie. Do you think there would be demand?

sal

I will literally pay you right now for a wharnie Military, especially if it retains some negative blade angle. If it also happens to be LN200N and SE I'll buy two.
I know they appear to have decided to not do that but if they did, if they were to contact you and say "David, we have decided to make custom-fabricated knives for our long-term customers like yourself, out of appreciation of your patronage/business/interest in Spyderco," and then proceeded to allow you to specify all the details of the knife you want, and would actually manufacture the above versions: Lc200N blade, Wharncliffe Shape, Negative Blade Angle, and Serrated Edge, that would be like Christmas, Thanksgiving, and New Years all rolled into one, wouldn't it? :) That is one of my greatest dreams is to see Spyderco do that.

If they were to do that, I would jump on the bandwagon and get this: Spyderco Tanto Military with FRN handle scales and serrated edge, Satin Finished Blade.
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Wartstein wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 2:13 pm
sal wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:22 am
Hi Doc,

....Eric has discussed making some other blade shapes for the Millie. Do you think there would be demand?

sal
Just some ideas of things I personally would like to see in that regard:

Stouter tip (Endura-like)
Thinner bladestock
Longer blade (=better blade/handle ratio)
I would be for the longer blade and also a blade in the 3.5 to 4 inch range, but with thicker blade stock, and the stouter tip and also a tanto-shaped one. I would also want FRN handles.
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sal wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:22 am
Hi Doc,

Hope you feel better.

Some handles are just unique to certain models. The Military, Cricket, etc. Eric has discussed making some other blade shapes for the Millie. Do you think there would be demand?

sal
Hi Sal,

I think it would depend on the blade style that you have in mind. Many of us love the Military precisely because of that great blade.

What styles are you thinking about?
Maybe a drop point with a reinforced tip? I know some would like a tanto but I am not a fan, personally.


(I love the Millie, but would only change the lock somehow)
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A Military blade longer than 4” might severely constrain sales owing to local laws. It’s already illegal to carry a Military publicly in Colorado where they are manufactured!

I see fairly strong sentiment for an American tanto blade shape, which could potentially satisfy both the tanto lovers and those desiring a more robust tip.
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Hope you’re feeling much better Doc. :)

Don’t know the answer to your question but I’m glad the Military has the handle it has. :cool:
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