Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
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Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I know the Chief isn’t available yet, but I watched Eric’s video on the design of the Chief, history of the Native series and Chief breakdown. Awesome knife. Made me wonder what you all think about it and if it came down to a choice between the two, Military or Chief, which would you prefer and why? Me, right now I am definitely on the fence.
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
No question at all for me, and I'm someone that used to own 6 Millies and carry them every day for five+ years.
Chief.
Why?
Three reasons.
1. No thumb ramp. Thumb ramps ruin ergonomics for me when using the choil on most knives, including the Millie.
2. Tip up carry.
3. Lockback. The Millie is one of the Spydercos that came open in my pocket, and made me exclusively buy lockbacks and cbbl going forward.
EDIT: I felt like adding that I would still recommend the Military to anyone who likes the design. I think it is one of the best Spyderco folders on the market, but my preferences have developed in a particular way that led me away from it. Most folks probably have no issues with the things I listed.
Chief.
Why?
Three reasons.
1. No thumb ramp. Thumb ramps ruin ergonomics for me when using the choil on most knives, including the Millie.
2. Tip up carry.
3. Lockback. The Millie is one of the Spydercos that came open in my pocket, and made me exclusively buy lockbacks and cbbl going forward.
EDIT: I felt like adding that I would still recommend the Military to anyone who likes the design. I think it is one of the best Spyderco folders on the market, but my preferences have developed in a particular way that led me away from it. Most folks probably have no issues with the things I listed.
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
Chief!!
Reasoning:
- What Vivi said already (except I don't mind or even like thumb ramps
- Plus: Better carryability: Much shorter when closed (while offering almost the same edge length as the Milli), slimmer, lighter.
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I love the handful of Millies I've aquired. ..especially the framelock versions. As much as I enjoy the design /function of the knife, The Native Chief will be more to my preferred taste. I love the natural "choil" grip of the Native 5 ...coupled with a larger blade and more hand placement options...the Chief will be a winner for sure.MichaelScott wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 11:55 amI know the Chief isn’t available yet, but I watched Eric’s video on the design of the Chief, history of the Native series and Chief breakdown. Awesome knife. Made me wonder what you all think about it and if it came down to a choice between the two, Military or Chief, which would you prefer and why? Me, right now I am definitely on the fence.
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I expect to like the Chief’s backlock better than the Military’s liner lock. It should be as tight as the Native’s lock. :)
I expect the Chief to ride slimmer in the pocket.
The Chief will have thinner blade stock.
I expect that I will like the ergos on the Military better.
I like both blade shapes.
Military or Chief? Definitely both!
I expect the Chief to ride slimmer in the pocket.
The Chief will have thinner blade stock.
I expect that I will like the ergos on the Military better.
I like both blade shapes.
Military or Chief? Definitely both!
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
Definitely Police 4. :)
I haven't used a Chief, so I'm not sure I could comment intelligently on the Military v. Chief question.
I haven't used a Chief, so I'm not sure I could comment intelligently on the Military v. Chief question.
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
Personally, I wish I could carry something larger than 3.5" legally. I've got a couple of Endura's and Military's that I'd like to carry more often, but I usually don't due to the law. I'll take them camping/backpacking and use them around the house, but that's about it.
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
JS_KnifeNerd here :spyder:
Just wondering, how does the Chief stack up to other big knives?
I totally feel you Shane I live in Denver to :o
Thank You :)
Just wondering, how does the Chief stack up to other big knives?
I totally feel you Shane I live in Denver to :o
Thank You :)
Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I'll need to get both in-hand to know. It is nice having a SFO in your backyard!
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I'll have to have the Chief in hand to compare. Hard to say right now. Probably going to be Military for me. I like the liner lock. A G10 Military Salt In H1 SE is my dream yard knife.
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I quite like the looks of the Chief but, it's a backlock, has less cutting edge than a Military, redundant clip holes all over black scales ... not for me. :)
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I'd go with Military as I'm not a huge fan of the leaf shaped blade. The Chief's shape is more subtle than the original Native, but I'm still more positively disposed toward the clip point and thumb ramp of the Millie. The difference in the locking mechanisms is not too big a deal for me; I have no problem with backlocks or liner locks. The Military's handle is doubleplusgood comfortable in my hand, and I really can't imagine the Chief improving on that. All that said, the Chief looks like a fine instrument and I doubt there's much of anything wrong with it, only between the two I'd choose a Millie And make it 52100 lol
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I can't think of a thing to add to this.Vivi wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 12:08 pmNo question at all for me, and I'm someone that used to own 6 Millies and carry them every day for five+ years.
Chief.
Why?
Three reasons.
1. No thumb ramp. Thumb ramps ruin ergonomics for me when using the choil on most knives, including the Millie.
2. Tip up carry.
3. Lockback. The Millie is one of the Spydercos that came open in my pocket, and made me exclusively buy lockbacks and cbbl going forward.
EDIT: I felt like adding that I would still recommend the Military to anyone who likes the design. I think it is one of the best Spyderco folders on the market, but my preferences have developed in a particular way that led me away from it. Most folks probably have no issues with the things I listed.
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
Millie
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Chief 100%
I do like the Military with the frame lock, but it still can't match the Chief's ergonomics and superior lock.
Compression>Backlock>Framelock>Linerlock>Feces>CBBL
I do like the Military with the frame lock, but it still can't match the Chief's ergonomics and superior lock.
Compression>Backlock>Framelock>Linerlock>Feces>CBBL
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I’ll wait until the Chief is in my hands.
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I have a few formidable Military sprints. Good luck to the challenger to the throne... No contest. :)
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
+1. And for me, "a few" is an understatement :)Brock O Lee wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 5:14 amI have a few formidable Military sprints. Good luck to the challenger to the throne... No contest. :)
Hey, why don't you tell us what you really think ? :D
Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I must add to my earlier comment.
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I foresee the Chief being every bit as good as my 204P and REX45 Millies, just not the same.
Thus, I’m disinclined to see the Millie and Chief opposed, unless funds make a choice necessary, then the reckoning is less about the inherent goodness of the knife and more about personal preferences.
Who is the best climber to have summited Everest? Each and every one of them!
I foresee the Chief being every bit as good as my 204P and REX45 Millies, just not the same.
Thus, I’m disinclined to see the Millie and Chief opposed, unless funds make a choice necessary, then the reckoning is less about the inherent goodness of the knife and more about personal preferences.
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Re: Has to be discussed: Military or Chief?
I am looking for a discussion of their respective attributes and differences rather than which is better. Better is such an individual and vague notion that I don’t care about that. I am interested in which you may prefer and why. A contrasting conversation not a contest.
I’ve had neither but have been interested in a Military for some time. Now, I will want to compare the two.
I’ve had neither but have been interested in a Military for some time. Now, I will want to compare the two.
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