Defective Native 5 Salt? First Spyderco (+Beauty Shot)

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Defective Native 5 Salt? First Spyderco (+Beauty Shot)

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Hi guys, this is my first Spyderco! Because I moved next to the ocean and started diving I thought it should be a salt. The action, centering, and feel of the blade are excellent but I can't help but spot this that the top of the plunge grind is shaved off.

Seemed like someone slipped :p I get it we are all human but how normal is this? Should I return it?
I live in Taiwan so shipping it back will be a PITA... Our local postal service won't ship ANYTHING with an edge to the States and Fedex costs 60 :eek: dollars. It'll certainly feel better if I could order a replacement blade (i'll gladly pay, please Sal) but it doesn't seem like Spyderco does this often... Any advice? It's just gonna annoy me to no end :( . It's one for one for a defect now bleh rotten luck.

Defect in first two pics; scroll down for some nice pictures - the thing looks otherwise spectacular :cool: .

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Hi SirJack,

Welcome to our forum.

I think the knife is fine and you should enjoy it.

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Welcome to the forum Sir Jack!

I'm afraid there's probably not a whole lot you can do about that grind. It's a great knife though!

If I may ask, what kind of diving do you do? I'm actually in the middle of getting my open water PADI certification right now. :)
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Yes, the knife looks fine. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

I lived in Taiwan (Taipei) for nearly a decade. If the Salt line had existed back then, they would have been perfect for me in that environment.

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Deal with it and enjoy it as it's a great knife.
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sal wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 8:02 am
I think the knife is fine and you should enjoy it.
If the man himself says so ;) ... my OCD won't let me be, or let me be me, so don't let me see :cool:
The Meat man wrote: If I may ask, what kind of diving do you do? I'm actually in the middle of getting my open water PADI certification right now. :)
I am a recreational diver as well :) I prefer boat diving b/c most dive spots reachable from the shore are crowded where I live. It's really beautiful down there and it really gives me peace. I saw some fishing nets last dive and hence I started looking for a Salt.

Didn't expect such a response; the community here is something special :).
I am planning to 3d print a sheath with a BCD mount to carry it locked open in the water. Stay tuned!
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I can't tell what exactly about the plunge line isn't correct. Use it.
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Hi SirJack,

I think the grind line at the top of the blade is the way it should be.

And yes, the community here is special. Gail and I are also PADI divers, though we've not dove for a while. Getting old. Last was the great barrier reef. We still snorkel in Hawaii.

FYI, We also make a few fixed blade Salts.

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Think of it this way - now you don't have to worry about keeping your new knife pristine. Go ahead and use it as it should be used!
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sal wrote: FYI, We also make a few fixed blade Salts.
Keep up the good work sir and I won't need weights to descend :D (which I will use to weigh down my wallet)
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SirJack wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 9:22 am
The Meat man wrote: If I may ask, what kind of diving do you do? I'm actually in the middle of getting my open water PADI certification right now. :)
I am a recreational diver as well :) I prefer boat diving b/c most dive spots reachable from the shore are crowded where I live. It's really beautiful down there and it really gives me peace. I saw some fishing nets last dive and hence I started looking for a Salt.

Didn't expect such a response; the community here is something special :).
I am planning to 3d print a sheath with a BCD mount to carry it locked open in the water. Stay tuned!

Very nice! I'll bet there are a lot of great dive spots over there in Taiwan. :cool:
I've been looking at dive knives some, and I'm thinking the Enuff Salt should fit the bill pretty well. It seems like a tough little prybar of a knife.
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SirJack wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 7:35 am
the top of the plunge grind is shaved off.

The top of the plunge grind is smooth so there's no sharp 90 degree corner along the edge of the hole where your finger will roll across it to open the knife. It's intentional. It may not look uniform, but it's the best for pain-free and smooth operation.
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Mine looks the same except for the Sharks teeth along the entire edge.
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BornIn1500 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 5:40 pm
SirJack wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 7:35 am
the top of the plunge grind is shaved off.

The top of the plunge grind is smooth so there's no sharp 90 degree corner along the edge of the hole where your finger will roll across it to open the knife. It's intentional. It may not look uniform, but it's the best for pain-free and smooth operation.
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that’s not the case on the other side of the knife. it’s not the same on either side of mine. is it a big deal? no. but that doesn’t mean everyone should just shrug off his concern with an “oh well.” he paid a lot of money for his knife. i’m surprised to see everyone be so dismissive.

to call it defective is a stretch. it’s not defective. the functionality of the knife is not diminished in any way. however, to argue that it’s supposed to be that way is the kind of fanboi nonsense that drives me crazy around here. you can like spyderco knives and be loyal to the brand without losing your ability to be objective and honest.
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ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 10:53 pm
BornIn1500 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 5:40 pm
SirJack wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 7:35 am
the top of the plunge grind is shaved off.

The top of the plunge grind is smooth so there's no sharp 90 degree corner along the edge of the hole where your finger will roll across it to open the knife. It's intentional. It may not look uniform, but it's the best for pain-free and smooth operation.
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that’s not the case on the other side of the knife. it’s not the same on either side of mine. is it a big deal? no. but that doesn’t mean everyone should just shrug off his concern with an “oh well.” he paid a lot of money for his knife. i’m surprised to see everyone be so dismissive.

to call it defective is a stretch. it’s not defective. the functionality of the knife is not diminished in any way. however, to argue that it’s supposed to be that way is the kind of fanboi nonsense that drives me crazy around here. you can like spyderco knives and be loyal to the brand without losing your ability to be objective and honest.
That's a new one to me! Forum members giving the OP rational statements that the knife ISN'T that bad and just use it is fan boyish? :confused: Especially after he stated that sending it back is going to be nightmarish! Add to the fact, The owner of the company weighed in and said it looked in spec....meaning QC would probably just send it back anyways (nightmarish) :eek:

Not being involved in the thread originally. ..I'd say he got good advice. Maybe start a thread taking about inconsistencies in blade grinding if your frustrated!

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ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 10:53 pm
BornIn1500 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 5:40 pm
SirJack wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 7:35 am
the top of the plunge grind is shaved off.

The top of the plunge grind is smooth so there's no sharp 90 degree corner along the edge of the hole where your finger will roll across it to open the knife. It's intentional. It may not look uniform, but it's the best for pain-free and smooth operation.
Image

that’s not the case on the other side of the knife. it’s not the same on either side of mine. is it a big deal? no. but that doesn’t mean everyone should just shrug off his concern with an “oh well.” he paid a lot of money for his knife. i’m surprised to see everyone be so dismissive.

to call it defective is a stretch. it’s not defective. the functionality of the knife is not diminished in any way. however, to argue that it’s supposed to be that way is the kind of fanboi nonsense that drives me crazy around here. you can like spyderco knives and be loyal to the brand without losing your ability to be objective and honest.
I don't see where anybody in this thread was being dismissive.

If there were (or appeared to be) an issue, I would not hesitate to say so. No "fanboi" nonsense here. Nor any lost objectivity or lost honesty, either.

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Thanks for the input guys :) . I started the thread to find out if something like this is out of line for Spyderco QC; and enough reason to send it in creatively. I am sure I can if I try hard enough.

As ladybug said this is definitely "abnormal" but it won't compromise the function of the knife. It also seems like other experienced spydies don't think this is a big deal so in the end i'll keep it for a user.

I'm sure everyone means well, despite difference in opinions, so thanks to all for chiming in :spyder:
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ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 10:53 pm
BornIn1500 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 5:40 pm
SirJack wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 7:35 am
the top of the plunge grind is shaved off.

The top of the plunge grind is smooth so there's no sharp 90 degree corner along the edge of the hole where your finger will roll across it to open the knife. It's intentional. It may not look uniform, but it's the best for pain-free and smooth operation.
Image

that’s not the case on the other side of the knife. it’s not the same on either side of mine. is it a big deal? no. but that doesn’t mean everyone should just shrug off his concern with an “oh well.” he paid a lot of money for his knife. i’m surprised to see everyone be so dismissive.

to call it defective is a stretch. it’s not defective. the functionality of the knife is not diminished in any way. however, to argue that it’s supposed to be that way is the kind of fanboi nonsense that drives me crazy around here. you can like spyderco knives and be loyal to the brand without losing your ability to be objective and honest.
I couldn't tell what the OP's concerns were until I got to this post. Till then, I was feeling much the same regarding the responses ... that the attitude was "It's a Spyderco it's OK" ... so you are not the only one that sensed a degree of fanboy in the responses. After your post, and knowing what the OP was trying to point out, reading the subsequent responses, and reading thru the responses a second time; I didn't pick up as much fanboy as the first time thru.

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