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Which endura?

Postby Sjucaveman » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:01 am

I really like the ergos of my blacked out pacific salt. I understand it is like some version of the endura. Which version of endura would you recommend?
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Re: Which endura?

Postby abbazaba » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:11 am

The handle shape of the Pacific Salt is not the same as the Endura 4, it is based on the previous Endura generation. The ergos are different. You might want to check out this thread:

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Re: Which endura?

Postby Bill1170 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:41 pm

Sjucaveman wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:01 am
I really like the ergos of my blacked out pacific salt. I understand it is like some version of the endura. Which version of endura would you recommend?
If you love the Pacific Salt ergonomics, then an Endura 3 is the same handle. You’ll be shopping the secondary market for one because Spyderco stopped making these over a decade ago.

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Re: Which endura?

Postby Sjucaveman » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:00 pm

I very well might like them endura 4 as well, I don't have anywhere I can handle them nearby.
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Re: Which endura?

Postby kwselke » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:44 pm

The Endura 4 also has skeltonized steel liners and may be slightly heavier and stiffer than the comparable Salt. You did not say if your Pacific Salt is plain edge or serrated. I have four Endura 4s, one each Waved, full flat grind, fully serrated, and blacked out combo plain/serrated all in VG-10. The Emerson Waved version is different and should be ruled out from the comparison. If I expect to need to cut fibrous materials I carry the fully serrated blade. The flat ground blade is a tremendous slicer, and would be my choice for cooking or game prep duty. The blacked out combo blade is a good option for general purposes. I find VG-10 to be quite rust resistant, and both the plain and serrated edges are easy to keep sharp with a Sharpmaker. Your steel selection and blade style selection are depended on your use. The Salt scales have more of an Endura 3 profile than and Endura 4 profile. In my hand I can use either happily.

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Re: Which endura?

Postby Vivi » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:16 pm

If it were me, I'd buy another Pacific Salt (Planning to this year, actually).

The Endura 4 is a very nice knife, but it's a different knife.

For me, there are three main drawbacks comparing the two knives.

The first is the handle shape on the Endura 4 does not work well for me. The ergonomics are different. If I grip with my first two fingers in the first finger groove, my hand is cramped. If I grip with just my index finger in the first groove, my hand sits too far back.

The Pacific Salt on the other hand feels right every time, with my index finger in the first groove.

Second, no variation of the Endura is rust proof (Though the DLC versions come close).

Lastly, it's also a little over half an ounce heavier.

Now, if weight and corrosion resistance don't matter much to you, and you find the handle comfortable, the Endura does offer a lot of benefits.

The handle texture is very nice, quite grippy. There is also jimping on the handle behind the thumb ramp, which a lot of folks like.

There are tons of steels to choose from. They might not be rust proof, but you have a lot of options like VG10, S30V, VTOKU2, HAP40, etc.

There are also factory waved models, and versions with G10 scales, stainless steel scales or wooden scales.

The E4 is a knife I've given many chances, a knife I wanted to like, but in the end the handle shape change makes it not work for me. Hopefully that isn't the case for you.

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Re: Which endura?

Postby Wartstein » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:01 pm

As Vivi pointed out above, the ergos on the Pacific Salt are different to those on the Endura, and you state thats it´s specifically the P.S. ergos you like. So going just by this I can´t say if the Endura (-handle) is for you
For me personally, the ergos of the Endura are very good, and my hand is L to XL in size.

If I should recommend which model, I´d say: FFG and HAP 40 if you want to spend a bit more (and can find one of the HAP 40 sprints) , or VG 10 if you go "budget". I have both and 100% always will... )
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Which endura?

Postby Jazz » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:48 pm

The Endura is still an awesome knife. I recommend FFG blue or black. Actually, orange would be nice too.
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Re: Which endura?

Postby Marulaghost » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:53 pm

Wharncliffe anyone?

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Re: Which endura?

Postby Vivi » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:38 pm

Marulaghost wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:53 pm
Wharncliffe anyone?
I'd imagine it will be in the next reveal. Should be out soon.

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Re: Which endura?

Postby Marulaghost » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:07 pm

I thought they already released it

Edit: endura wharncliffe was released late February to some dealers. Checked the delivery thread

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Re: Which endura?

Postby ladybug93 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:59 pm

i came here to say pacific salt. hahaha

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Re: Which endura?

Postby The Mastiff » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:19 pm

I have pretty much every version ever released of the Endura except the Ti/Damascus and the latest wharnie and I'm pretty happy with the regular version. I like the choice of steels but I still carry the VG 10 version as much as any. I have given thought about getting the PE Wharncliff as it looks pretty nice. Too many bills this month though.

Any version from the beginning to the newest is a good knife. Whichever one seems right to you will do whatever you need within reason.

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Re: Which endura?

Postby Markana » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:14 am

Get the zip 189 version.Dont forget they come in colors.

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Re: Which endura?

Postby anagarika » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:30 am

The Byrd Cara Cara 2 is the closest to Pac Salt handle with FFG profile.
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Re: Which endura?

Postby Water Bug » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:41 pm

I like the looks and design of the Spyderco Endura 4 with the Glock Armorer's Tool that was offered by Lone Wolf Distributors.
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Re: Which endura?

Postby Sjucaveman » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:53 pm

No glock anything for me.
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Re: Which endura?

Postby Wartstein » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:14 pm

Sjucaveman wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:01 am
I really like the ergos of my blacked out pacific salt. I understand it is like some version of the endura. Which version of endura would you recommend?
Now with the upcoming models (see the recent "Amsterdam"-thread) you could also think about going a bit bigger (Police FRN) or a b it smaller (Endela) and still have an in some aspects endura-ish knife ... :D
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Which endura?

Postby BigKenbo » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:38 pm

Sjucaveman wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:01 am
I really like the ergos of my blacked out pacific salt. I understand it is like some version of the endura. Which version of endura would you recommend?
Lots of accurate replies here. And great info. I have endura 4s in ZDP-189 and HAP40/SUS410. I carry one in my pocket and one in my boot every day. Love them both and use the stuffin' outta both. I think an endura in your blade choice would serve you beautifully. I have really big hands though, so your opinion may vary! Best of luck!
Oh so it's THAT kind of party. Endura 4 ZPD-189, HAP40/410. Native 5 G-10 S110V. Native 5 LW MAXAMET, S30V, S110V. Rest are safe queens. These are loved and CARRIED.

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Re: Which endura?

Postby Sjucaveman » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:09 pm

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