I really like the stonewash of the S30V model. It's only 'plain jane' on paper. I could tell from the first time I picked one up it was something special. Even if I score the M4 model, I have no plans to get rid of my s30v shaman.
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I'm currently in middle Georgia (~700ft elevation) visiting family, but I've been up around Clayton/Rabun Gap, often staying in places 2,500ft+ while trout fishing in the valleys by day. It's certainly humid, but not salty humid. You can absolutely sweat your Manbugs off here in the summer, but you can also see old run down cars in people's yards from the 50's and 60's that have very little rust on them. Those cars tell all. You don't see that near the coast.Sumdumguy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:43 pmI have had the opposite results with my M4 Mantra, it refuses to rust or even patina. I had a Rex45 PM2 that started rusting almost instantly. I put it in my pocket, got in the car and drove to the job. Thirty minutes later when I opened it to cut some packaging at the jobsite, there was rust all over it.
M4 on the other hand, I carried daily for several(3?) months and it shows only the faintest discoloration in one spot, I can't catch it in a picture. The only maintenance I do to it is mineral oil on the blade once every two weeks or so.
I live in the mountains of N. Georgia. Hot, humid and nasty.
M4 has been fine out here for me in the past. If I'm near the beach or out on the water, it HAS to be DLC. And even then, I'll normally opt for something stainless in that situation unless I'm really enjoying carrying that model at the time.
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You are 100% correct. If the question was "does M4 rust fast at the beach?", definitely.Pelagic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:53 amI'm currently in middle Georgia (~700ft elevation) visiting family, but I've been up around Clayton/Rabun Gap, often staying in places 2,500ft+ while trout fishing in the valleys by day. It's certainly humid, but not salty humid. You can absolutely sweat your Manbugs off here in the summer, but you can also see old run down cars in people's yards from the 50's and 60's that have very little rust on them. Those cars tell all. You don't see that near the coast.Sumdumguy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:43 pmI have had the opposite results with my M4 Mantra, it refuses to rust or even patina. I had a Rex45 PM2 that started rusting almost instantly. I put it in my pocket, got in the car and drove to the job. Thirty minutes later when I opened it to cut some packaging at the jobsite, there was rust all over it.
M4 on the other hand, I carried daily for several(3?) months and it shows only the faintest discoloration in one spot, I can't catch it in a picture. The only maintenance I do to it is mineral oil on the blade once every two weeks or so.
I live in the mountains of N. Georgia. Hot, humid and nasty.
M4 has been fine out here for me in the past. If I'm near the beach or out on the water, it HAS to be DLC. And even then, I'll normally opt for something stainless in that situation unless I'm really enjoying carrying that model at the time.
However, the question was "does M4 rust as bad as people say(in a humid, woody area)". I am saying M4 has superior corrosion resistance over most other tool steels. In the environment that semfi and I live in, M4 will be very easy to maintain.
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I love M4. One 1/2 day running a chainsaw after Hurricane Michael in North Florida and my para3 had minor pits all over the portion of the blade that’s not hidden in the blade, and major pits all over where the juice from a vine I cut had time to act. Other than that day I haven’t had any issues, and I do yardword with a Salt 2 now.
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I thought so at first, but have very much come to like my native and DLC PM2 with jade scales. I turned my nose up at the early satin M4 PM2 and regretted it. But everyone has different tastes. I am a big fan of M4, so that may well push me towards this one in spite of the Jade G10.Brock O Lee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:19 pmI’ll wait for Cruwear and micarta.
Jade G10 leaves me jaded.
I say that after saying how I have come to like the Jade. I am just somewhat unsure about the Shaman in Jade G10. The Micarta and/or a darker handle do seem more fitting for a "rough and tough" knife like the Shaman. But ignoring all this fussing about the color, I think this will be an excellent knife. I am glad to see the first exclusive appear on the scene.
I do want to see Micarta with some steel. Either the much talked about Cruwear, or better yet K390. And we need a burnt orange Sprint with Rex 45 to go alongside the Rex 45 Sprints from last summer.
PS -- none of my M4 knives show any rust. My Gayle Bradley 2 looks like the day I bought it. But conditions around here aren't conducive to much in the way of rust -- or even patina. (Although the K390 on my Police 4 does seem to be working up a bit of color trending towards a patina.)
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To me, this seems to be the most practicable overbuilt folder of the time, in the most popular size and type of lock.
.15"T x 3.5"L CPM-M4 FFG blade, mid/back lock, color customize(able) G10 contoured ~.5" thick handle... should be a **** of a work knife.
I could see this one used without reservation, from trimming toe nails, to industrial use, to processing game, and everything in between... for a few generations.
I'd prefer rex45, but will be hard for me to resist if they don't sell out quick.
.15"T x 3.5"L CPM-M4 FFG blade, mid/back lock, color customize(able) G10 contoured ~.5" thick handle... should be a **** of a work knife.
I could see this one used without reservation, from trimming toe nails, to industrial use, to processing game, and everything in between... for a few generations.
I'd prefer rex45, but will be hard for me to resist if they don't sell out quick.
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I agree. I prefer Cruwear, but still love M4. I prefer gray or black or tan or brown or dark green (you get the picture) scales, but jade is fine too. I have the Yo2 and it really works to make that look less weapony, more edc utility. I also have the PM2 and it is a great worker. If I wanted an upgraded Shaman from the standard S30V, this one is an excellent option.
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I am torn between the M4 Shaman and saving money, but what is this about a DLT exclusive the same day?Spyderman91 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:01 pmI'm really torn between this, the DLT exclusive pm2 being released on the same day, or saving money.
I am doing some searching and not finding anything. Maybe that is a blessing.
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Hey dude, sorry for the confusion but I was referring to this: https://www.dlttrading.com/spyderco-par ... 20cv-bladeTucson Tom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:02 pmI am torn between the M4 Shaman and saving money, but what is this about a DLT exclusive the same day?Spyderman91 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:01 pmI'm really torn between this, the DLT exclusive pm2 being released on the same day, or saving money.
I am doing some searching and not finding anything. Maybe that is a blessing.
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Nick Shabazz posted a video on YouTube of one he received directly from BladeHQ. This would indicate to me that they have them in house and ready to ship, after they are available to order on Tuesday.
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While I personally prefer steels with better corrosion resistance, I'm very interested to see how well this sells. Hopefully it flies off the shelves like the BHQ exclusives usually do so that it will give some other dealers the confidence to do more versions.
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Knife looks good!Catamount123 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:59 pmNick Shabazz posted a video on YouTube of one he received directly from BladeHQ. This would indicate to me that they have them in house and ready to ship, after they are available to order on Tuesday.
https://youtu.be/grb8BjgXMf8
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Hey, thanks very much!!! I got one of those on the first run (and it is an excellent knife), so it will be the Shaman this Tuesday -- if I get lucky -- and if I don't decide to be fiscally responsible.Spyderman91 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:19 amHey dude, sorry for the confusion but I was referring to this: https://www.dlttrading.com/spyderco-par ... 20cv-bladeTucson Tom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:02 pmI am torn between the M4 Shaman and saving money, but what is this about a DLT exclusive the same day?Spyderman91 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:01 pmI'm really torn between this, the DLT exclusive pm2 being released on the same day, or saving money.
I am doing some searching and not finding anything. Maybe that is a blessing.
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Aaaand I'm in for one :D
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Got my order in! No tax either. So I upgraded shipping. Thanks BHQ and Spyderco!
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Got mine ordered! :D
BRING ON THE MANIX XL SPRINTS AND EXCLUSIVES! And 10v or K390ify the Golden lineup, please.
Top 5 folders I’ve owned: Serrated Caribbean Leaf, Shaman, Manix XL, ZDP-189/CF Caly 3.5, Native LW.
Top 5 steels I’ve owned: LC200N, K390, CPM S90V, M390, CPM REX45.
Top 3 steels I want more of: M390 class, A11 class (including K390), CPM REX45.
Top 5 folders I’ve owned: Serrated Caribbean Leaf, Shaman, Manix XL, ZDP-189/CF Caly 3.5, Native LW.
Top 5 steels I’ve owned: LC200N, K390, CPM S90V, M390, CPM REX45.
Top 3 steels I want more of: M390 class, A11 class (including K390), CPM REX45.
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Holy snaps, it’s already sold out. I’m glad I was sitting here refreshing the page for the last five minutes before they were up for orders!
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BRING ON THE MANIX XL SPRINTS AND EXCLUSIVES! And 10v or K390ify the Golden lineup, please.
Top 5 folders I’ve owned: Serrated Caribbean Leaf, Shaman, Manix XL, ZDP-189/CF Caly 3.5, Native LW.
Top 5 steels I’ve owned: LC200N, K390, CPM S90V, M390, CPM REX45.
Top 3 steels I want more of: M390 class, A11 class (including K390), CPM REX45.
Top 5 folders I’ve owned: Serrated Caribbean Leaf, Shaman, Manix XL, ZDP-189/CF Caly 3.5, Native LW.
Top 5 steels I’ve owned: LC200N, K390, CPM S90V, M390, CPM REX45.
Top 3 steels I want more of: M390 class, A11 class (including K390), CPM REX45.