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New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby Ruthless » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:47 pm

So I just got the SPideychef, I think that's what its called, great balance on the knife.

So Wife and I are chefs... we love our knives and use the Ken Onion WorkSharp sharpener... Couple questions on Spyder knives...

Seems sharp, however, also seems like will dull quickly. Does it need to be sharpened on delivery?
Does anyone have experience or insight with the Ken Onion sharpening on pocket knives?

https://www.amazon.com/Work-Sharp-Knife ... pons&psc=1

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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby BigKenbo » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:23 pm

I admit i only have 6 spydercos purchased over the last year or so, but i have found them to be the sharpest "factory" edges. I touch them up on the sharpmaker and strop with a 1 micron impregnated paddle and particularly the zdp-189, s110v, and hap40 will whack straight through free hanging hair. I hope this helps you.
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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby Donut » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:21 pm

Some people will say that if you use a motorized sharpener, you can create enough heat to damage the steel. I haven't seen any solid information about how slow a motorized sharpener needs to go. Some professionals swear by very slow speed paper wheels, though.

I think you could find some good material on blade forums or maybe even here about how well that system works.
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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby AccountDeletedUserRequest » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:51 pm

New Spydercos should always come sharp.

Now, I do like to regrind my Spyderco edges a little thinner than they come from factory, but that's not something anyone has to do.

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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby Sharp Guy » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:52 pm

Welcome Ruthless. Not saying those KO WorkSharps are bad but you might want to consider getting a Spyderco Sharpmaker for touch ups. I think you'll be surprised how sharp you can get that Spydiechef on the SM.
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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby zhyla » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:02 pm

Ruthless wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:47 pm
Seems sharp, however, also seems like will dull quickly.
You can tell that just by looking at it?

Sharpen it when it doesn't cut like brand new.

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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby Pelagic » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:59 am

Virtually any production knife from any company will not have an edge from the factory that exhibits peak performance. I'm not referring to bevel angle or grit finish, but fatigued steel on the edge. Sharpening a knife by hand on a stone yields a much healthier, longer lasting edge compared to using an industrial grade belt. Factory edges tend to have suboptimal edge retention and toughness. They will dull more quickly and are more prone to chipping and rolling. You normally don't get optimal stability, toughness, and edge retention until you've sharpened it 3-5 times and removed the fatigued steel. With that said, I don't immediately re-profile knives from the factory. To preserve the lifetime of the blade, I simply use it as long as I can until it's dull (maybe strop it back a time or 2 throughout use) and sharpen it when necessary. But this is something to keep and mind so you don't judge a particular steel or a company's heat treat until you've actually sharpened the knife a number of times.
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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby aesmith » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:59 am

None of my Spydercos have come sharp from the factory. Some needed their bevels reset, others just needed a touch up to get the edge I wanted. For any tool or knife I expect to give it a few sharpenings before it settles down.
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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby bwunger » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:14 pm

All of my Spydercos have come sharp, certainly sharp enough for normal use. I like mine sharper than factory though and like to set bevels narrower than factory so I always reprofile and sharpen them withing the first couple weeks.
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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby TomAiello » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:21 pm

Welcome to the forum!

I use the Ken Onion Worksharp on most of my knives.

Just make sure you have the angle set correctly, or you're going to be reprofiling instead of sharpening, and it may get frustrating.

I don't think you need to sharpen it immediately. Use it until it needs sharpening, then sharpen as normal.

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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby Bloke » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:00 pm

Welcome to the forum!

Spyders usually come fairly sharp with the exception of my Sprig and more so my Southfork which I reprofiled/sharpened before using.

All the others I just use as is and touch up on the SharpMaker for a bit but I'm generally not happy till I reprofile and sharpen a knife to my liking. :)
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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:05 pm

Mine was not sharp either, own the Ken Onion do not recommend it on this knife. LC200N sharpens very easy to a very sharp blade. Use Sharpmaker brown rods you’ll see.
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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby anteck7 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:08 pm

Nothing wrong with the worksharp, especially if you have the Ken Onion edition and you already are familiar with it and know how to sharpen. Match the bevel and just touch it up on the fine or extra fine belt.

I would say that tools like the worksharp are more dangerous for new sharpeners, as its easy to over do it without realizing it.

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Re: New Spyder Knife, need sharpening?

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:20 pm

anteck7 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:08 pm
Nothing wrong with the worksharp, especially if you have the Ken Onion edition and you already are familiar with it and know how to sharpen. Match the bevel and just touch it up on the fine or extra fine belt.

I would say that tools like the worksharp are more dangerous for new sharpeners, as its easy to over do it without realizing it.
Exactly, the sharpener will eat up S90V in nothing flat Lc200N does not stand a chance go very easy with it, very, Very easy if you choose this tool.
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