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Sage 5 lw in frn and s30v was shown by eric. cant wait for that and para 3 lw. i know the chap is already a lightweight but i am hoping they change the lock and i would be all over it. love knives in that size between a para 3/sage to a lil native/cat.
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Q ball. No idea how i forgot that
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Marulaghost wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:53 am
Q ball. No idea how i forgot that
That reminds me. Dodo. Can you imagine an frn dodo? Dammnnnn
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Never understood why the Caly 3 never made it to lightweight.
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Jazz wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:41 am
Never understood why the Caly 3 never made it to lightweight.

Sal said that the current maker of the Caly line can’t produce enough volume for an FRN version, so they have to move the Caly 3.5 LW to another maker. I think they were reluctant to do that, since this particular maker does outstanding work, and Spyderco has a long history with them.
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Double post, sorry.
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Jazz wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:41 am
Never understood why the Caly 3 never made it to lightweight.
I personally am glad, that presumably the 3.5 will get the lightweight-treatment first, but I sure hope (for you and in general) that the 3(.0) will follow soon...
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Catamount123 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:10 am
Jazz wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:41 am
Never understood why the Caly 3 never made it to lightweight.

Sal said that the current maker of the Caly line can’t produce enough volume for an FRN version, so they have to move the Caly 3.5 LW to another maker. I think they were reluctant to do that, since this particular maker does outstanding work, and Spyderco has a long history with them.
Taichung?
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ABX2011 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:04 am
Catamount123 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:10 am
Jazz wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:41 am
Never understood why the Caly 3 never made it to lightweight.

Sal said that the current maker of the Caly line can’t produce enough volume for an FRN version, so they have to move the Caly 3.5 LW to another maker. I think they were reluctant to do that, since this particular maker does outstanding work, and Spyderco has a long history with them.
Taichung?
Perhaps Italy or USA bc of the SpyDK or UKPK handle molds?
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I think the objections to a knife like the Shaman being offered as a lightweight are sound. Such a LW knife would no longer be a Shaman. By extension, will the LW Para 3 still be a Para 3? Different scales, no liners, different lock, wire clip, tip up only, one ounce lighter. Looks like a Para 3 from a distance. Is it better? Depends on what you mean by “better”. It will certainly will offer a different experience than the Para 3 HW.

I think the weight difference is basically negligible. My keys weigh more than the weight savings.

What if Spyderco released a Military LW? Would it still be a Military with all of the attributes of the original? Would people who haven’t bought a Military HW buy a LW version?

I hope we get some real criticism (both good and bad) on the Para 3 LW. That will be really interesting.
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The Military with G-10 handles is amazingly light already. I doubt that sales of a marginally lighter version would justify the engineering and mold expense of doing an FRCP Lightweight version.
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MichaelScott wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:00 am
...By extension, will the LW Para 3 still be a Para 3? Different scales, no liners, different lock, wire clip, tip up only, one ounce lighter. Looks like a Para 3 from a distance. Is it better? Depends on what you mean by “better”. It will certainly will offer a different experience than the Para 3 HW....
May I ask: What makes you think the Para 3 LW will have a different lock than the G10 Para 3? Both comp. lock, right?
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ABX2011 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:04 am
Catamount123 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:10 am
Jazz wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:41 am
Never understood why the Caly 3 never made it to lightweight.

Sal said that the current maker of the Caly line can’t produce enough volume for an FRN version, so they have to move the Caly 3.5 LW to another maker. I think they were reluctant to do that, since this particular maker does outstanding work, and Spyderco has a long history with them.
Taichung?

No, it's a Japanese maker. You'll notice the Caly series just say Japan on the blade, where other Japanese models say Seki City Japan. This maker requested that to distinguish themselves from others.
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Catamount123 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:07 am
ABX2011 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:04 am
Catamount123 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:10 am
Jazz wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:41 am
Never understood why the Caly 3 never made it to lightweight.

Sal said that the current maker of the Caly line can’t produce enough volume for an FRN version, so they have to move the Caly 3.5 LW to another maker. I think they were reluctant to do that, since this particular maker does outstanding work, and Spyderco has a long history with them.
Taichung?

No, it's a Japanese maker. You'll notice the Caly series just say Japan on the blade, where other Japanese models say Seki City Japan. This maker requested that to distinguish themselves from others.
I was asking about the maker of the Caly 3.5 LW. Are you saying that they will be made by the other Japan factory? I guess that makes sense since they already make all those other FRN models.
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Don't know for sure, but I doubt they’d go outside of Japan to produce the Caly 3.5 LW. Looking forward to seeing when it is released ;)
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Wartstein wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:03 am
MichaelScott wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:00 am
...By extension, will the LW Para 3 still be a Para 3? Different scales, no liners, different lock, wire clip, tip up only, one ounce lighter. Looks like a Para 3 from a distance. Is it better? Depends on what you mean by “better”. It will certainly will offer a different experience than the Para 3 HW....
May I ask: What makes you think the Para 3 LW will have a different lock than the G10 Para 3? Both comp. lock, right?
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Spydergirl88 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:41 pm
If the Caly 3.5 LW happens I hope it has the same texture as the UKPK

Same. Big fan of the waffle pattern on the UKPK scales. Such a simple and classic design.

FRN Caly 3.5 in the style of the UKPK is a grail knife for me.

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MichaelScott wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:23 pm
Wartstein wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:03 am
MichaelScott wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:00 am
...By extension, will the LW Para 3 still be a Para 3? Different scales, no liners, different lock, wire clip, tip up only, one ounce lighter. Looks like a Para 3 from a distance. Is it better? Depends on what you mean by “better”. It will certainly will offer a different experience than the Para 3 HW....
May I ask: What makes you think the Para 3 LW will have a different lock than the G10 Para 3? Both comp. lock, right?
From Spyderco site: “and a streamlined version of Spyderco’s patented Compression Lock™ mechanism“
Right, thanx for the reminder! Did read that already but forgot about it later.
I'd assume though, that while "streamlined" on the inside, the outer parts and the lock in use will virtually be the same as the existing comp lock. What do you think?
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Wartstein wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:30 pm
MichaelScott wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:23 pm
Wartstein wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:03 am
MichaelScott wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:00 am
...By extension, will the LW Para 3 still be a Para 3? Different scales, no liners, different lock, wire clip, tip up only, one ounce lighter. Looks like a Para 3 from a distance. Is it better? Depends on what you mean by “better”. It will certainly will offer a different experience than the Para 3 HW....
May I ask: What makes you think the Para 3 LW will have a different lock than the G10 Para 3? Both comp. lock, right?
From Spyderco site: “and a streamlined version of Spyderco’s patented Compression Lock™ mechanism“
Right, thanx for the reninder! Did read that already but forgot about it later.
I'd assume though, that while "streamlined" on the inside, the outer parts and the lock in use will virtually be the same as the existing comp lock. What do you think?
It's a pinned leaf linerless compression lock
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Yes, essentially functionally the same, but reduced in size.
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