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Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:23 am
by Marulaghost
I'd call the sage 5 different enough from the para3 to warrant a LW version
S30v in comparison to bd1n.
Fits different in the pocket.
Slightly different ergonomics.
Different aesthetics.
Most of all I'd call the sage 5 a thicker chaparral with a comp lock
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:31 am
by p_atrick
Marulaghost wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:53 pm
Would s30v be considered better than bd1n?
In my opinion, no. i was hoping that a new round of LW versions would hit the market and be more accessible to consumers. The price would come down due just like the Para 3, BD1N is going to be easier to sharpen, FRN can take abuse better, you don't have to worry about corrosion as much, and the knife is made in the USA. Basically, you can be a bit more careless with the knife. These, I think, are all good things. So I was really hoping that the Sage LW would come in BD1N. I want to try out that steel, but the Para 3 doesn't excite me as much as my Sage. That said, I might get myself a Para 3 just to try out the BD1N. Of course, this is just my opinion. There is nothing wrong with S30V. I carry my Sage 2 more than any other knife (and it's not even close) so I'm not opposed to S30V. I just wanted to try out BD1N in a model that fits my hand so well.
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:50 am
by ABX2011
Wasn't Sal talking about maybe using a high hollow grind on this FRN version?
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:02 pm
by SpyderEdgeForever
That is a beautiful knife. COOL! THANK YOU! :)
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:37 pm
by SpyderEdgeForever
Screen Shots from the Youtube video:
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:39 pm
by SpyderEdgeForever
More screen shots from Youtube video:
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:53 pm
by araneae
elena86 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:47 am
I noticed Eric couldn't close the LW Sage5 one handed...nothing new in that departement :eek:
Never been an issue for me to 1 hand it.
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:04 pm
by araneae
Looks little more squared off than the P3 lightweight. Maybe the video is deceiving, but I had hopes that with the pics of the P3 lightweight, they had finally moved away from the inexplicably squared off FRN scales of late. If that's a proto- hopefully they take note that hands are indeed not square and prefer curves over angles. Please keep 'em contoured Spydie crew.
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:47 am
by ABX2011
I found that little discussion of a high hollow:
sal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:21 am
Hi Jason,
I've been nagging Cliff for a collaboration for years. Can't get him to bite. I think it wold be a fun project. Maybe you can help? He can tell me what he thinks and I can turn it into a model. His brain, my hands?
Also, regarding the high hollow. I agree with you that it might be the most efficient cutting tool. Chris Reeve has always liked his high hollow.
The high hollow keeps the blade thin for a long space and what it gives up in strength, it makes up for having that thin blade at and near the edge. Certainly better for skinning. Like the Hamaguri (convex), the geometry of a blade has much more depth than is originally perceived. The reason is the friction alongside the blade in a cut.
SSssooo...for the purpose of discussion, Let's pick a model and make a high hollow? Whatchathink?
(May be better in another thread?)
sal
sal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:54 pm
Hi Jason, Ugaarguy,
We've got a new Sage FRN in-the-works. Might be an interesting test?
sal
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:45 am
by ASmitty
Man, I'm loving all the FRN models we're seeing/anticipating lately.
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:29 am
by SpyderEdgeForever
ASmitty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:45 am
Man, I'm loving all the FRN models we're seeing/anticipating lately.
Me too. So am I.
Spyderco has gone through a knife renaissance.
Also, did you look at the screen shot of the knife that shows the blade thickness. Isn't that a nice and beefy blade for cutting chores?
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:04 pm
by ASmitty
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:29 am
ASmitty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:45 am
Man, I'm loving all the FRN models we're seeing/anticipating lately.
Me too. So am I.
Spyderco has gone through a knife renaissance.
Also, did you look at the screen shot of the knife that shows the blade thickness. Isn't that a nice and beefy blade for cutting chores?
Most definitely. I pre-ordered the Para3 as soon as I could. But, I like the Sage 5 just a little bit more than the Para 3 so I think I'll be pre-ordering that right away as well. If these FRN models keep coming, I'm going to be low on funds for a while.
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:17 am
by mayong
As excited as I am for the Para 3 lightweight, I'm even more so for a Sage 5 lightweight. I hope this thing makes it to production!
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:23 am
by ASmitty
mayong wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:17 am
As excited as I am for the Para 3 lightweight, I'm even more so for a Sage 5 lightweight. I hope this thing makes it to production!
For Eric to have it in pocket, it means they have to have spent the money on the molds for the FRN handles. That pretty much guarantees that we'll see it at some point.
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:34 pm
by hovan2yourknives
Maybe they'll make it in XHP since it has the same scales as the Chappie LW...?
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:16 am
by jimmd
Marulaghost wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:23 am
I'd call the sage 5 different enough from the para3 to warrant a LW version
S30v in comparison to bd1n.
Fits different in the pocket.
Slightly different ergonomics.
Different aesthetics.
Most of all I'd call the sage 5 a thicker chaparral with a comp lock
For me the most important difference is the blade thickness. The Sage 5’s blade stock thickness is 3 mm compared to 3.7 mm on the Para 3. My Sage 5’s blade is 0.019 inches behind the edge. For knives of this size, I prefer them thinner.
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:21 pm
by mayong
jimmd wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:16 am
For knives of this size, I prefer them thinner.
Same here. Thinner stock makes for great slicers.
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:46 pm
by dodgie02
The sage has quickly become my favourite knife in its size and design market. I'm interested in the lw version but I actually like the way the sage 5 feels, both in hand while opened or closed. Such a nice thing to hold. Mine is extremely smooth now without play at all. Took a humongous amount of time of tweaking and disassembling it, reassemble, test, and over and over again but ****.
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:38 am
by gull wing
Really like the idea of a lightweight sage 5.
Wish for BD1N blade.
Re: Casual Sage 5 Lightweight reveal
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:05 pm
by Danvp
The Sage 5 Lightweight will be a sure buy for me. Today i enjoyed holding a preproduction model. The same ergonomics in a lighter package. All edges perfectly rounded. To put a compressionlock into the frn handle is not a walk in the park, Eric told us today. In fact the para 3 LW and Sage 5 LW are not constructed exactly the same. We will see which one turns out to be the best. I understand that once the compressionlock is solidly build into frn we will see a whole lot more of them.