Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

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Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby SpyderEdgeForever » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:33 am

First, look at the pictures for yourself:

https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP223S ... military-3

Now, think this over, friends. Look at those beautiful grind lines, and the shape, and the smoothly-designed grips. Wow. This is the Spyderco knife I have been wanting for years and could not put my finger on it. Ever since I first saw images of the Military and Para Military, I have thought "If they would make it with a glass reinforced nylon handle, it would be perfect. With all due respect to the G10 models, ofcourse.

Now for the question of questions: Will this replace the Delica for those who purchase and use the Spyderco Delica models, or, not?

If yes, what are the main reasons why?

If no, what are the main reasons why not?

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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby Pelagic » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:37 am

Too many people love the delica for its geometry, ergos, and price. It's also just too iconic. The delica is going nowhere.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby SpyderEdgeForever » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:39 am

Pelagic wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:37 am
Too many people love the delica for its geometry, ergos, and price. It's also just too iconic. The delica is going nowhere.
I was hoping someone would say that. I want to see both of them stick around.

Now I am on the edge of my seat awaiting a Military with FRN grips. Do you think we will see this within our life time?

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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby bearfacedkiller » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:41 am

For me, the Delica carries better in the pocket and also cuts circles around the Para3. Maybe it is just me but those are the two things my knives do the most of. :)

The Para3 will on the other hand get you a ticket to ride on the hype train with all the cool kids. :D

All jokes aside, they both have there pros and cons. The Para3 is likely more fun to fondle for those who value that and it is also made in the US which is great and many folks, including myself, value that.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby TkoK83Spy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:43 am

I think the Delica is a mainstay. Especially with the variety of options it comes with. But the standard version, I can definitely see it taking a hit with sales.

I'd love for Sal to chime in, in regards to Delica sales after the Chaparral LW was released, if the sales trended down?

Now this Para 3 being released for under $20 more with quite a few upgrades over the Delica. It's got to be a bit worrisome for the ole icon.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby Jazz » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:44 am

Not everybody likes compression locks.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby bearfacedkiller » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:44 am

If anything it is the Native5LW that stands to go head to head with the Para3LW. I prefer the Native5 G10 over the Para3 G10 myself. I look forward to comparing the frn versions.

The ChapLW seems to be the main competitor to the Delica.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby knivesandbooks » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:47 am

Para 3 feels weird in my hand, doesn't cut like a Delica, and I prefer back locks.

Also, I have 7 Delicas.
I think the Chaparall is the main competitor against the Delica.
I wonder if the para 3 may impact sales of the Native 5. Native 5 has better ergos though.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby knivesandbooks » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:48 am

bearfacedkiller wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:44 am
If anything it is the Native5LW that stands to go head to head with the Para3LW. I prefer the Native5 G10 over the Para3 G10 myself. I look forward to comparing the frn versions.

The ChapLW seems to be the main competitor to the Delica.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby Spydergirl88 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:08 am

To me the lw para 3 would compete more with the lw native 5. They share more similarities IMO than the para 3 lw and Delica 4. Currently the Delica 4 is $78 the para 3 lw is $91 and the native 5 lw is $98.50 just for reference.

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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby SpyderEdgeForever » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:20 am

Spydergirl88 wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:08 am
To me the lw para 3 would compete more with the lw native 5. They share more similarities IMO than the para 3 lw and Delica 4. Currently the Delica 4 is $78 the para 3 lw is $91 and the native 5 lw is $98.50 just for reference.
This is a very good observation, as are the others.

Then here is my next question: If a Para3 Salt, with Lc200N stainless was released, would that definitely compete with the Native Salt?

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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby Wartstein » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:31 am

At first glance I felt like the OP. But after thinking about it: No. Quite different knifes.

First and foremost: Bladestock. 3.7 (Para) vs 2.5 (Delica) is a huge difference, clearly the Delica will be a better slicer..
Handle: The Delica is a knife that is very ergonomic in a regular grip (all fingers on the actual handle) while you CAN choke up on the Ricasso. The Para 3, at least with bigger hands, works better choked up.
Lastly: No liners vs liners (though my FRN Native clearly shows that linerless FRN can be very solid).
Since I like the even thinner blade stock on the Chap, I guess between 2 knifes that small the Delica would be my choice over the Para 3 lw
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby JaseRicco » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:52 am

I would guess for those, such as myself, that don’t necessarily like backlocks, the Para 3 could be viewed as a better outlet, and those that don’t necessarily like compression locks would stick right where they are...with the Native 5 LW or the Delica 4 LW.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby blendergasket » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:05 pm

SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:39 am
Now I am on the edge of my seat awaiting a Military with FRN grips. Do you think we will see this within our life time?
If they made this with an ambidextrous clip I would be so happy.

I hope they do the whole series in FRN and use it as a sprint platform. This would really lower the cost of getting awesome knife steels.

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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby zhyla » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:32 pm

The Para 3 blade is 60% thicker than the Delica. If you use knives to actually cut things then you know these two share no more than a passing similarity.

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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby TkoK83Spy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:41 pm

zhyla wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:32 pm
The Para 3 blade is 60% thicker than the Delica. If you use knives to actually cut things then you know these two share no more than a passing similarity.
Definitely no denying the slicing abilities of the Delica over the Para 3!

For me, I typically wear gloves when cutting and using my knives and the Para 3 is just slightly more comfortable for me. Plus I prefer the finger choil for more controlled cuts as well.

I have to agree with the majority here though, comparing the Para 3 and Native, rather than Para 3 and Delica. Much more similarities between those two.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby Larry_Mott » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:44 pm

Is apples going to replace oranges?
No, the Para 3 won't make any difference in this regard i am sure :)
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby 500Nitro » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:46 pm

Jazz wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:44 am
Not everybody likes compression locks.
Got it in one.

And that's before all the other good responses like post No 2.

Pelagic
"love the delica for its geometry, ergos, and price. "


I've been using an Endura for 27 years, I might by a compression lock but
I d don't have to think or look at the knife when I want to close it.
I would have to if it was a compression lock.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby ABX2011 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:48 pm

I don't think they're very similar. Nor do I think the Para 3 Lightweight is all that similar to the Native 5 Lightweight. Lots of great options for knife enthusiasts. I plan to make the New Para 3 my first of that model line. I am also the proud owner of the Delica 4 and Native 5 Salt.
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Re: Will the Paramilitary FRN replace the Delica?

Postby Wartstein » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:48 pm

TkoK83Spy wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:41 pm
zhyla wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:32 pm
The Para 3 blade is 60% thicker than the Delica. If you use knives to actually cut things then you know these two share no more than a passing similarity.
I have to agree with the majority here though, comparing the Para 3 and Native, rather than Para 3 and Delica. Much more similarities between those two.
I think so too. And of THOSE two (Para 3 LW / Native 5 LW) I´d prefer the Para 3 I guess. If only for the slightly more actual edge it offers.
EDIT: No, I´d prefer the Para not over the Native. Didn´t think of the Comp. lock for a moment, and I am more of a back lock guy.
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