Well, it's definitely not s125v or k390
But neither is S30v and I think people will be pleasantly surprised with BD1N
We'll have to see how the HT turns out. Hardness isn't everything but the beauty of BD1N is higher working hardness without being edge brittle.
I've been using my Yata 8" gyuto in BD1N at 63 for over a year. It's very pleasant.
Very much superior to VG10.
Has a lot of advantages over S30v/s35vn as well.
If I had to choose between low hardness and carbides or higher hardness and Nitrides I prefer the latter.
With these Production knives most are stuck at 60rc to be modest for a HUGE range of end users with varying degrees of experience, sharpening equipment and skill. Also HUGE variables with how there being used, for what and what the end users expectations are for sharpeness and what performance is.
So for the masses it will very much be a favorite, even more so then S30v I feel, some may even experience more edge holding in real world use then S30v.
I like S30v/S35VN, don't get me wrong.
They have there place.
But it's time to break the norm and try something new. A different flavor of performance.
One with higher hardness and more stability rather then just wear resistance.
At the end of the day, I don't have a Spyderco in BD1N in my hand to compare. So I don't know what the performance will be like
My experience with BD1N on customs is that it can smoke thicker, softer S30v but by manipulating the geometry and hardness. Its Geometry cuts and the hardness supports thinner blades and lower angles but at a consequence to being thumped on. Trades offs for everything.
S30v at the same geometry and hardeness would be more prone to microchipping then Bd1n in real world use.
I've used Yaxells "Dragon" which was made in Japan and it has had a great HT.
I've had great conversations with Dennis, who got Yaxell to use the Bd1n steel with his "Dragon" line after he had been testing it with his old friend Ken Onion.
Dennis told me that Ken really liked the steel and noticed it held a great edge for bear hunting.
Dennis Epstein used to be in charge of Kai/Shun back when it launched and helped make Shun a house hold name in kitchen knives he later formed Apogee Cutlery and is the reason why BD1N taking the kitchen knife world by storm.
I've had a very small batch of BD1N Puukkos made by Malanika in some blanks that I had Heat treated by Brad at Peter's to 63rc.
It made a good woods blade thanks to the combination of hardness and stability.
S30v was less suitable for that application.
I think at the end of the day, some will rave about it. Some will want more aggression, some will want more strength some will want more corrison resistance.
But there is no free lunch, always trade offs, cost is also a factor.
BD1N isn't the "Messiah" but it's a nice steel that many will enjoy and it's nice to play with a steel that has a higher working Hardness not just raw carbides.
sparky2016 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:42 pm
Keep in mind it's just meant to be something better than VG-10 or BD1, as an all around and moderately priced steel. It's not a super steel, so some comparisons may not be useful.
[ Elliot Williamson, Founder of Ferrum Forge Knife Works] tells us Carpenter’s CTS-BD1N holds the potential to achieve stardom as the go-to performer of the production knife world. It costs about the same as VG-10 or N690, with a better mix of wear resistance, corrosion resistance, and sharpenability. These qualities make it an easy choice for anyone looking for the best price-to-performance ratio.
Sal Glesser has already revealed that Spyderco’s Chinese OEM will likely start phasing in CTS-BD1N to replace the BD1 on models like the Polestar and Raven 2. If others follow, BD1N could represent a new watermark for budget-friendly steel performance. “It’s really going to come down to how many companies pick it up and promote it, how many are willing to put real marketing dollars behind it.”link