Dyad II or New Concept Double Blade Folder?

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Re: Dyad II or New Concept Double Blade Folder?

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Mom3ntuM wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:35 am
Is it practial with a lanyard on knife with a blade in both ends?
Wouldn't the lanyard interfer with one of the blades.
Astute observation. That's the issue wherever one puts it.

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:rolleyes:
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I was not trying to state the obvious, but discretely hint that not every knife benefit from a lanyardcontraption.
Put a hole in the clip so People can tie a rope trough it.
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Another astute comment.

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Or a backspacer that protrudes enough on one end for a lanyard hole.
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Sjucaveman wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:59 pm
Or a backspacer that protrudes enough on one end for a lanyard hole.
We can do that to create the hole, but there is usually not enough space to put a lanyard through without being in the way of the blade.

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I'm in the "don't care about lanyards" category. If it's there, great. If not, I wasn't going to use it anyways.

I am super excited about this development, LC200N would be fantastic. I'll be patiently awaiting future details.
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Ditch the lanyard, I saw.
It someone needs to tie it to their bodies, they can tie it to the spydiehole of the blade they're least likely to use.
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Likewise, the lack of laynard is a non issue for me.

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knivesandbooks wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:37 pm
Ditch the lanyard, I saw.
It someone needs to tie it to their bodies, they can tie it to the spydiehole of the blade they're least likely to use.
I've tried that and it is just so awkward. I think it could be implemented on one end and on the opposite side of where the blade opens. I've even given thought to installing my own lanyard hole, hook or clip. But I will admit that it's not an easy model to do it with. But there's got to be a way if we just put our heads together. Like I said if I was fishing on a boat it would break my heart horribly if any of my Spyders fell overboard>> the Dyad would be worse than most.

Another problem with using the Spyder-hole on one of the blades is that you could accidentally have the blade pried open and that could be potentially dangerous. Which is why I'm addressing the problem ahead of time.
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Putting a lanyard in a blade hole sounds like a serious cut waiting to happen.
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JD Spydo wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:06 pm
knivesandbooks wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:37 pm
Ditch the lanyard, I saw.
It someone needs to tie it to their bodies, they can tie it to the spydiehole of the blade they're least likely to use.
I've tried that and it is just so awkward. I think it could be implemented on one end and on the opposite side of where the blade opens. I've even given thought to installing my own lanyard hole, hook or clip. But I will admit that it's not an easy model to do it with. But there's got to be a way if we just put our heads together. Like I said if I was fishing on a boat it would break my heart horribly if any of my Spyders fell overboard>> the Dyad would be worse than most.

Another problem with using the Spyder-hole on one of the blades is that you could accidentally have the blade pried open and that could be potentially dangerous. Which is why I'm addressing the problem ahead of time.
Instead of a lanyard hole, make the knife scales buoyant.
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Sumdumguy wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:37 am
Instead of a lanyard hole, make the knife scales buoyant.
Interesting concept.

Not sure how it could be done.
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500Nitro wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:44 am
Sumdumguy wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:37 am
Instead of a lanyard hole, make the knife scales buoyant.
Interesting concept.

Not sure how it could be done.
Palm swell with a hollow core? I dont know what the buoyancy properties of G10 and other handles are. I would wager, with some finagling, sal and the crew could figure it out. Maybe foam filled?

Just spitballing.
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Re: Dyad II or New Concept Double Blade Folder?

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Interesting concept.<br/>
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Not sure how it could be done.
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Not that I personally would have a need for it, but really quite interesting to contemplate how it could be done... what amount of encapsuled air inside a sealed handle or how much cork/ similar materials would it take to make a knife float? What would that mean concerning the size and/or stability of the handle? What general concepts could one figure out... and so on...

Fact is, it IS done but does not look very appealing, solid and practical to me.... https://www.google.de/search?client=ms- ... fhXhPS1CKM:
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Re: Dyad II or New Concept Double Blade Folder?

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Sumdumguy wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:37 am
JD Spydo wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:06 pm
knivesandbooks wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:37 pm
Ditch the lanyard, I saw.
It someone needs to tie it to their bodies, they can tie it to the spydiehole of the blade they're least likely to use.
Another problem with using the Spyder-hole on one of the blades is that you could accidentally have the blade pried open and that could be potentially dangerous. Which is why I'm addressing the problem ahead of time.
Instead of a lanyard hole, make the knife scales buoyant.
Not sure how you could do that without literally having bubbles for scales :confused: . It's been easy with most models>> like the M390 Military and Stainless RESCUE models I'm carrying today both have lanyard holes in the bottom portion of the handle and most models that works quite well with.

But as great as it is to have a double bladed folder with one full Spyderedged blade and one plain edged blade it is not something I'm going to give up on either. I'm thinking that maybe there might be a way to have a hook or clip fold up inside of the handle itself and to only have it deployed when you are actually using it. Because anytime I go out in a boat or anytime I hike or hunt deep into the woods I always have a lanyard for my folders especially.

Also it would be cool to have this new Dyad II in a conventional style and a Salt Series style both. It is something that can be done I'm sure of it.
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Hi JD,

Making a folding lanyard does add problems to this design. Current thought is to test a lanyard hole as an extension out of the clip.

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Wartstein wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:08 am

Fact is, it IS done but does not look very appealing, solid and practical to me.... https://www.google.de/search?client=ms- ... fhXhPS1CKM:
Interesting - but also right in that it doesn't look very appealing, solid and practical to me.


I think I'll stick with a lanyard, I worked out what length to use and what cord that it didn't get in the way
so will stick with that if I need it in future.
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Re: Dyad II or New Concept Double Blade Folder?

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Good news about the Dyad.
Going with the New concept part of the post. Would there be any interest in a similar knife using the blades from the larger clipitools, standard PE and Recue SE?
A 'value' or ClipiDyad' for want of a better term, :)
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If it uses the same basic construction as the Sprint Dyad, you could machine a groove in the scale and liner, or across the corner of the back spacer/spring holder and the inside of the liner to make a split ring hole or hidden lanyard hole. It might not be big enough for 550 cord, but it would give you an attachment point without interfering with blade function or ergonomics. You could even do it at both ends to accommodate all carry options.
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