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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby Brock O Lee » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:41 pm

Devin Thomas has positive comments about AEB-L:

http://www.devinthomas.com/faq.html

“Roman Landes found AEB-L to have greater edge stability, toughness, and wear resistance than 52100. Edge stability is a property that describes a steel's ability to hold a finely sharpened edge. 52100 is one of the most well respected carbon steels, and is well known for its small carbides, high toughness, and high edge stability, so it's impressive that AEB-L was able to beat it in these categories, while also having greater wear resistance and being a stainless steel. Many users have reported that AEB-L sharpens as easily as any other carbon steel they have used.”
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby Brock O Lee » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:48 pm

TomAiello wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:45 pm

Are 13C26 and AEB-L both PM process?
Both are ingot steels according to zknives:

http://www.zknives.com/knives/steels/st ... p?nm=aeb-l
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby awa54 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:22 am

Interesting that Carpenter also makes a variant:

http://www.zknives.com/knives/steels/st ... hrn=1&gm=0
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby northmanscall » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:04 am

awa54 wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:22 am
Interesting that Carpenter also makes a variant:

http://www.zknives.com/knives/steels/st ... hrn=1&gm=0
The amount of molybdenum kicks it a little out of the comparison imo.
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby sal » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:20 am

Hi Northmanscll,

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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby Doc Dan » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:21 am

Tom, neither are as far as I know. It was created for razorblades I seem to recall. That is a real chore to stand up to a heavy beard day after day and still shave.
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby elena86 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:48 am

I hope to see these low carbon steels in more spydies.I quote from my previous thread: "John Verhoven, metallurgist, says that AEB-L would be the best all-around steel for knifemakers. The reasons he gives for good edge retention are: 1. hardens to 63-64 Rc 2. very fine carbides that avoid carbide pull-out (which happens in coarse carbides) and add to wear resistance 3. The K2 carbide is formed, which gives better wear resitance to the K1 carbide which is formed in Mo steels such as 154-CM." I only hope Spyderco will nail the hardness ....
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby wrdwrght » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:34 pm

How did I overlook this thread? I’m in on an AEB-L Urban.
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby Doc Dan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:14 am

We are all excitedly waiting on this one.

I was unaware that AEB-L has greater edge stability than 52100. I knew it had to be good in order to make a good razor blade steel with the very thin blades they are making nowadays. However, I would never have guessed it was better than 52100.

My experience with 52100 in a knife is that it will bend and roll but not chip, normally. I cannot say it will never chip, but only I have not experienced it. It will take an extremely fine edge and hold its sharpness a decent amount of time and it is very, very easy to put that fine edge back on.
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby ugaarguy » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:59 am

Between this and the new Para 3 LW with 14C28N it's already shaping up to be an interesting year.

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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby awa54 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:33 pm

Bump

I'm really hoping this one has a spot in the next Reveal... or at least releases this year.
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby Capt'n Boatsalot » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:13 pm

ugaarguy wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:59 am
Between this and the new Para 3 LW with 14C28N
Wait, what? I was aware of the Para 3 LW in CTS BD1N, but was not aware of 24C28N. Is this real?

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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby weeping minora » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:31 pm

Capt'n Boatsalot wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:13 pm
ugaarguy wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:59 am
Between this and the new Para 3 LW with 14C28N
Wait, what? I was aware of the Para 3 LW in CTS BD1N, but was not aware of 24C28N. Is this real?
14C28N* :D

http://zknives.com/knives/steels/se/14c28n.shtml

It is a real steel and from what I've heard about the steel, it was first developed for Kershaw as an "upgrade" to 13C26; mainly in the corrosion resistance department with the addition of Nitrogen. I doubt Spyderco has plans to use this particular steel, but who knows :cool:. I recall seeing the Para 3 LW being released in BD1N as well
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby rabbitanarchy14 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:15 am

ok you have my interest in a coyote brown urban with aeb-l steel. would love to try the steel and dont have an urban yet so yea ill take one.
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby ugaarguy » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:56 am

Capt'n Boatsalot wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:13 pm
ugaarguy wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:59 am
Between this and the new Para 3 LW with 14C28N
Wait, what? I was aware of the Para 3 LW in CTS BD1N, but was not aware of 24C28N. Is this real?
I meant BD1N. Thanks for catching my brain fart 2 months later.

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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby Capt'n Boatsalot » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:03 pm

ugaarguy wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:56 am
Capt'n Boatsalot wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:13 pm
ugaarguy wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:59 am
Between this and the new Para 3 LW with 14C28N
Wait, what? I was aware of the Para 3 LW in CTS BD1N, but was not aware of 24C28N. Is this real?
I meant BD1N. Thanks for catching my brain fart 2 months later.
Ha, sorry about that. Wasn't even looking at the dates. Of course, then I fat fingered 14C28N! Really was just curious if there was some announcement that I had missed. All good!

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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby Baron Mind » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:50 pm

AEB-L at 62-64? Would they dare? I'd have to buy if they announced that hardness. Made me preorder a REX45 Para 3 when Sal announced it was averaging 66. My only preorder to date, couldn't miss it.

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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby Doc Dan » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:05 am

Many of us are waiting eagerly for the Coyote Urban LW with AEB-L. I was hoping it would be out already. Maybe I am too impatient.
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Re: Coyote Urban update?

Postby sal » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:23 am

I have a production sample.

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