native salt!
native salt!
i was one of the people impatiently awaiting the native salt, so i feel it’s only right that i make a post about it now that it’s available and i have one in my hands.
this knife is a thing of beauty. it’s also one of the sharpest edges i’ve ever seen from a factory. golden hit this one out of the park. i’ve not done any real testing with it since i just got it yesterday, but i’ve opened a few packages with it and this edge is no joke.
the yellow is still not my first choice (and i’d love to see this knife in all black), but this one does have a slightly warmer yellow than the seki salt models and that’s nice. hopefully you can tell from the picture it almost has more of an orange to it instead of being a pale yellow. i may end up dyeing it, but i’ll hold off on that decision for a while since the yellow really doesn’t bother me at all.
as for the native itself, it probably won’t replace my manix as my favorite knife, but it’s just as ergonomic for when i can’t carry the manix due to size restrictions. as i’ve said in the past, i’m not sure what people are looking for in a “mini manix” that’s not offered by the native. you can see the similarities in the picture. it feels just as comfortable and almost identical in hand despite its differences. i can even get all four fingers around the grip behind the choil (i wear a large glove), which i wasn’t sure i’d be able to do based on reviews. it also has a leaf shaped blade. it’s basically a mini mini manix (that’s for you, vivi) already.
here are the knives i’ve been carrying since i got the native yesterday morning for comparison purposes. the pacific salt and manix 2 are my typical edc pair. i will still carry my pacific salt when i’m in the ocean for the extra length and serrations, but the native may end up being my new running knife and could easily end up replacing the pair for edc some days.
overall, the native is an excellent knife and i’m really looking forward to putting the salt through it’s paces. it’s the perfect companion to my manix when i need a slightly smaller blade (mostly for work) and it feels just as great in hand. if you are on the fence about this one, i don’t think you can go wrong with it.
this knife is a thing of beauty. it’s also one of the sharpest edges i’ve ever seen from a factory. golden hit this one out of the park. i’ve not done any real testing with it since i just got it yesterday, but i’ve opened a few packages with it and this edge is no joke.
the yellow is still not my first choice (and i’d love to see this knife in all black), but this one does have a slightly warmer yellow than the seki salt models and that’s nice. hopefully you can tell from the picture it almost has more of an orange to it instead of being a pale yellow. i may end up dyeing it, but i’ll hold off on that decision for a while since the yellow really doesn’t bother me at all.
as for the native itself, it probably won’t replace my manix as my favorite knife, but it’s just as ergonomic for when i can’t carry the manix due to size restrictions. as i’ve said in the past, i’m not sure what people are looking for in a “mini manix” that’s not offered by the native. you can see the similarities in the picture. it feels just as comfortable and almost identical in hand despite its differences. i can even get all four fingers around the grip behind the choil (i wear a large glove), which i wasn’t sure i’d be able to do based on reviews. it also has a leaf shaped blade. it’s basically a mini mini manix (that’s for you, vivi) already.
here are the knives i’ve been carrying since i got the native yesterday morning for comparison purposes. the pacific salt and manix 2 are my typical edc pair. i will still carry my pacific salt when i’m in the ocean for the extra length and serrations, but the native may end up being my new running knife and could easily end up replacing the pair for edc some days.
overall, the native is an excellent knife and i’m really looking forward to putting the salt through it’s paces. it’s the perfect companion to my manix when i need a slightly smaller blade (mostly for work) and it feels just as great in hand. if you are on the fence about this one, i don’t think you can go wrong with it.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: native salt!
Awesome looking knife! Really wish they’d gone with the wire clip, but I can deal. Waiting to see what ‘Santa’ brings me tomorrow morning before I pick one up.
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Re: native salt!
one thing i forgot to mention about ergonomics... the native and manix both have clips where the bump that rests against the handle is lined up perfectly with the inside of a knuckle in either grip position. that’s a level of detail that most makers don’t consider and i appreciate it. i’ll have to post some images of what i’m describing. either here or a future thread on ergos.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Re: native salt!
Very good gold. Is it made in Golden?
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Re: native salt!
Yes look at the first photo
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Re: native salt!
Oh neat, thank you, I just looked at it. Very cool.
Re: native salt!
I just love the yellow. Might get one, even though I’m a fan of the hump. These new Natives are very well made. I have a black SE and 110 V. Sal, why do you do this to me?
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Re: native salt!
How durable and powerful a cutting tool do you think this Native Salt is, do you think it can stand up to the toughest most rigorous use, even outdoor survival?
Re: native salt!
it should be fine for anything you should use a folding knife for. it's a folding knife. it's not a fixed blade, a pry bar, a screwdriver, a hatchet, a helicopter, a life raft, a rescue beacon, etc. it's not the most durable pocket knife i have, but it's plenty good at being a knife.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: native salt!
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:49 pm
How durable and powerful a cutting tool do you think this Native Salt is, do you think it can stand up to the toughest most rigorous use, even outdoor survival?
Only way to find out is to test it and beat it up a bit. I'm not going to, but I'd trust the knife to last, besides batoning or crazy prying.
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Re: native salt!
The yellow is an interesting shade. I think Crayola had a shade like that in the big box. Very nice knife. Even though the Native 5 is not my favorite model because of my hand size, I plan to get one of these as soon as I recover from Christmas.
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Re: native salt!
okay... time for some full disclosure/updates/questions.
i received the native salt on the 23rd and have done nothing but play with it (opening and closing it) and using it for some light duty package opening on Christmas.
someone asked about how durable the steel is when it comes to scratching compared to h1. from what i can see, it's much better than h1 in this regard. i do see some very minor scratches if the light hits the blade just right. i'm guessing this comes from plastic blister packaging, which is the hardest material i cut. personally, i don't really care since this is definitely a user knife.
the only slight concern i have is that i'm noticing some lateral blade play. i don't remember this being present when i first got the knife and started playing around with it, but it's definitely there now. it seems like maybe the pivot loosened or something because the blade will slide a little from side to side and there is a small clicking sound. is this a normal native 5 thing?
this is not anything catastrophic or anything. i still have no doubt this knife is strong enough to use and i don't feel like the lock will fail. i'm just noting that there is some play after what i consider very minor edc use. i didn't break down a bunch of boxes, cut into anything strong, or even put lateral pressure on it. i just opened Christmas presents and opened and closed it at most a couple hundred times.
i received the native salt on the 23rd and have done nothing but play with it (opening and closing it) and using it for some light duty package opening on Christmas.
someone asked about how durable the steel is when it comes to scratching compared to h1. from what i can see, it's much better than h1 in this regard. i do see some very minor scratches if the light hits the blade just right. i'm guessing this comes from plastic blister packaging, which is the hardest material i cut. personally, i don't really care since this is definitely a user knife.
the only slight concern i have is that i'm noticing some lateral blade play. i don't remember this being present when i first got the knife and started playing around with it, but it's definitely there now. it seems like maybe the pivot loosened or something because the blade will slide a little from side to side and there is a small clicking sound. is this a normal native 5 thing?
this is not anything catastrophic or anything. i still have no doubt this knife is strong enough to use and i don't feel like the lock will fail. i'm just noting that there is some play after what i consider very minor edc use. i didn't break down a bunch of boxes, cut into anything strong, or even put lateral pressure on it. i just opened Christmas presents and opened and closed it at most a couple hundred times.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Re: native salt!
I would be concerned over lateral blade play on such a knife as it is not normal. Check the pivot and the handle screws (likely). If all is right with these, I might consider having the knife evaluated.
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Follow the Christ, the King,
Live pure, speak true, right wrong, follow the King--
Else, wherefore born?" (Tennyson)
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Follow the Christ, the King,
Live pure, speak true, right wrong, follow the King--
Else, wherefore born?" (Tennyson)
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Re: native salt!
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: native salt!
i tried tightening the pivot. it felt like it made a difference at first, but it didn’t. i didn’t crank down on it hard or anything. it’s already tight. it almost feels like the blade is able to move back and forth on the pivot just a tiny amount. i can feel it click back and forth as i move it.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: native salt!
Probably a stupid question, but did you have a screwdriver on both sides when tightening, seeing as how it’s a two sided screw/bolt?
- best wishes, Jazz.
Re: native salt!
not a stupid question. i actually didn’t, but i had my finger on the opposing side and it wasn’t free spinning. if it had, i would’ve locked the other side down.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Re: native salt!
The pivot on the backside is actually a hexagon shape where it fits into the frn so it won’t turn. No need for a second screwdriver.
Re: native salt!
Good grief, now I have a PE in the mail! Thanks a lot for the enabling.
- best wishes, Jazz.
Re: native salt!
i’m sure you’ll enjoy it. i’ve been enjoying mine. :)
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C