I guess it would depend on how badly you needed a fire under certain conditions. The actual practical reason for batoning is getting to dry wood for firestarting. I'm sure we all try to leave prepared when we head out into the woods, especially when it comes to blades. I have a large machete in 1055 that I prefer over a hatchet (it's much lighter to carry and can chop down any tree) when hiking, a fixed blade in 3v, and a folder or 2, along with sharpening supplies. I always liked how the boy scout motto was "Be prepared". But occasionally we find ourselves in situations where we don't have the perfect tool for the job and must deal. I've only had my Ti/CF military a week and it's my baby. I'd probably whittle an entire log into shavings before I batoned with it, lol. But that's just me. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do.
Its a convenient way to get dry firewood or roughly shape chunks of wood before carving a tool. Its just one more way to cut things.
If you are prepared properly batoning with a folder is probably never the best option, right.Evil D wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:08 pm
Lots of people don't understand the need to EVER carry a knife. Different strokes for different folks. I don't personally have a realistic need for it but it helps to know how to do it properly and safely and if your knife can (nearly any knife can if you do it right).
I stated almost the same as you did here in my post below yours. Did read yours only afterwards, so I did not wanna "copy" itVivi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:54 pmIts a convenient way to get dry firewood or roughly shape chunks of wood before carving a tool. Its just one more way to cut things.
For splitting logs an axe or hatchet is obviously better, but sometimes you don't have one on you and simply don't feel like carrying two tools that can do the same job.
Any stout fixed blade should have no problems with it, especially a carbon steel chopper. My reprofiled Aqua Salt and Scrapyard Dogfather have been batoned for a decade with no ill effects.
I've done it with a lot of folders too. Opinels, Victorinox Nylon Solo, Manix XL, etc. I don't do it on a regular basis with them, but I wouldn't shy away from using my EDC folders to break down 2-3" wide chunks of fatwood into thinner sticks to start a fire.
Well, if you do what they say, the lock doesn't matter since you would do the pounding without the lock engaged. Even if it was, the handle would not be part of the game, it would just be vibrating and so forth. But I have yet to do any batoning or had a need to. We were talking about possibly batoning bears on one trip, but none showed up.
That's what I'd do if conditions were dry, but this isn't always the case.
Maybe they're wet, rotted, etc.
Thinking about it, you are totally right... So I consider to use my Endura instead of small Fixed for batoning in the future... As said, carry weight is often an issue for me so I do not bring a big blade or hatchet too often. And the batoning I do is most times only very light stuff... just splitting some branches or logs of diameter under 2 inches maximum to get to the dry core and make kindlingTucson Tom wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:54 pmWell, if you do what they say, the lock doesn't matter since you would do the pounding without the lock engaged. Even if it was, the handle would not be part of the game, it would just be vibrating and so forth. But I have yet to do any batoning or had a need to. We were talking about possibly batoning bears on one trip, but none showed up.
If I was actually planning to do some batoning, I would use a big Ontario knife fixed blade I have. An RD6 with 3/16 inch thick 1095 -- that should do OK.
Yeah, thats the main reason. But additionally on mountain huts there are often times prepared logs of wood, but too big to start a fire. Batoning them with a small knife is the best way to produce kindling. Often times I take one of that kindlings, turn it into a featherstick, light it with a match and use it to start a fire in the oven, when the fire starte wood inside the oven is hard to reach with a short match.