VashHash wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:15 am
I find the comp lock to be more secure but that's all based on opinion. I would like to see larger comp lock blades and I enjoy the military's ergos. I've never had either spyderco fail on me I just like the comp lock more. I'd even settle for a larger para. Not sure what they would call it if it's the same size as the military though. The szabo is nice and all but it's not a slicer like the p2 or military. Definitely a big chunk of knife in the pocket.
I feel for harder use the liner lock isn't the way to go. Backlock or comp lock seems to be a better option. Even a frame lock. Of course spyderco has said in the past they can make any lock as strong as they want. So it comes down to preference and liner locks aren't my preference.
I have never had a Spyderco fail on me either but I have triggered the release on a PM2 with compression lock accidentally while in use. Only the design of the blade prevented serious injury.
The test depicted in the you-tube link below performed by Blade HQ is about as non-real world as can be imagined but does demonstrate the failures of locks and what happens when they do.
If you will note they all fail at different rates but out of all the lock types only the Liner Lock fails but would protect the hand of the user because out of all the lock failures it is the only one where the blade did not collapse into what would be the users fingers.
Liner lock was the only lock to fail stuck open. This speaks to the only practical use for a locking knife. Safety.
Lock back was so strong the steel of the knife broke first which really says something for FRN. It however failed the first round of tests because it's release was pressed by the sliding cable.
While I love the compression lock it's release is vulnerable to mishandling (Misplaced Thumb) by the end user and is it's only practical drawback.
I conclude that while the compression lock is very strong as is the lock-back they both suffer the same inherent safety liability issue.
They are both located on the back of the handle they can both be released by inadvertent pressure being placed on the release, most lock-backs tend to be pretty stiff so this is not as likely to happen the release on a compression lock however requires very little effort and any lateral movement against it (especially by the thumb) will result in release at very low pressure.
Sal chose wisely when creating the Military with a liner lock. Frame lock has already been done with the Titanium Millies.
The only possible change I could think of is to produce the military as a lock back (Adding Weight) or to beef up the pressure required to release a compression lock.
Liner locks are not my preference nor are frame locks, or bolt or ball-bearing all of these locks require fingers near the blade to close so less than ideal, but my true preference is when a knife is locked it remains that way and will not close on my fingers.
Sadly my favorite lock type the compression lock was and is to this day the only one that ever has. In my experience this is a poor trade.
In preference it goes like this in order.
#1. Compression Lock Favorite of all time keeps fingers out of the way while closing but not safe from accidental closure.
#2. Back Lock helps get the fingers out of the way while closing and very strong can be accidentally released however unlikely and also keeps blade positively closed when in pocket.
#3. Liner Locks and Frame Locks very close in function so rate them equally. Virtually no chance of accidental closure of blade on fingers but good chance of cutting fingers during closure of the blade.
#4. Ball Bearing Lock and Bolt lock have owned both, both are neat but can be difficult to open and close requiring some force and lends towards dropping the knife when trying to keep fingers out of the area of closure.
So anyway with an improved version of the existing Compression Lock Sure I would buy a military with a compression lock but not with the way the compression lock is now.