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Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:58 am
by Deadboxhero
Should be cool, I'd love to have a spydie in 15v.

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:59 am
by bearfacedkiller
How about that!? Exciting!

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:43 pm
by VashHash
Deadboxhero wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:35 pm
Woodpuppy wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:18 pm
Ah! I hadn’t learned that on Forged in Fire :p
They don't show the tempering in the show. The contests have to quench the blades and one of the judges J.Neilson tempers them off screen before the next challenge.
Yeah I heard since he has to use it he wants to make sure it's tempered properly so it doesn't break and injure him. Can't say that's a bad idea.

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:54 pm
by Deadboxhero
VashHash wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:43 pm
Deadboxhero wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:35 pm
Woodpuppy wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:18 pm
Ah! I hadn’t learned that on Forged in Fire :p
They don't show the tempering in the show. The contests have to quench the blades and one of the judges J.Neilson tempers them off screen before the next challenge.
Yeah I heard since he has to use it he wants to make sure it's tempered properly so it doesn't break and injure him. Can't say that's a bad idea.
Yes, tempering is standard practice across the board for knives. They cut it out of the show for entertainment purposes.

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:59 pm
by Woodpuppy
I wish they’d show some of the extra steps/details on the “cutting deeper” version of the show. Some of the decisions that go into the setups and tests, why they pick the materials they do, etc.

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:06 pm
by Deadboxhero
Woodpuppy wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:59 pm
I wish they’d show some of the extra steps/details on the “cutting deeper” version of the show. Some of the decisions that go into the setups and tests, why they pick the materials they do, etc.
Nah, the show is for entertainment, not education. The audience limits the amount of details the program can focus on. Just watch to kill time, "read"and "do" if you want to go deeper.

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:36 pm
by crazywednesday
The Meat man wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:49 am
Deadboxhero wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:36 pm
sal wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:27 pm
Thanx Shawn,

Would you please email your exact tempering method? We're expecting a sample of 15V and we'd like to try to see if we can do that in production.

sal
Yes, I'll send over the latest protocol.

Thanks Sal.
:eek:
A BBB/Spyderco collab on 15V?! Yes! :D
Based on the geometry Shawn likes it would be a slicer for sure!

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:41 pm
by Trp2080
This thread is very exciting to read bbb 15v spyderco for the win

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:01 pm
by Woodpuppy
Just for grins I mic’d the bte on my rex45 pm2. Tried a couple different spots down the blade, it was right around .021” to .022” with a dial micrometer...

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:19 pm
by Deadboxhero
Cleans up nice. I'll continue testing with the remaining unfinished knives and update the thread.

Image

Look forward to seeing some CPM 15v Sal


-Shawn

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:29 am
by Pelagic
Another work of art. That thing could probably field dress a dozen bucks before it needed touching up, lol.

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:59 pm
by Deadboxhero
Pelagic wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:29 am
Another work of art. That thing could probably field dress a dozen bucks before it needed touching up, lol.
Larrin just checked the hardness on a CPM 15v coupon I heat treated and tempered with the custom protocol and it came back 68 HRC

So being that hard and not brittle at the edge and combined with super thin geometry is very exciting.

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:10 pm
by p_atrick
What, if anything, could Spyderco do via economies of scale to speed up/reduce the cost of the production? It seems like knives made under this protocol require a lot of attention. Having no experience with stuff like this, I don't see how making more than one at a time will lead to improvements regarding price/time to market.

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:32 pm
by Deadboxhero
p_atrick wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:10 pm
What, if anything, could Spyderco do via economies of scale to speed up/reduce the cost of the production? It seems like knives made under this protocol require a lot of attention. Having no experience with stuff like this, I don't see how making more than one at a time will lead to improvements regarding price/time to market.
Spyderco is a production company, that is their specialty to figure out.

I am a custom knife maker, it is my specialty to make the best possible regardless of cost.

Each has it's advantages and disadvantages.

It's always interesting to see what comes out when the two work together.

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:38 pm
by The Mastiff
I never thought about 15V running that hard. I thought rc 63-64 was tops. If it has decent stability at that hardness it will be in a whole different category from the steels I've tried and not liked such as S125V @ rc 64. Even at rc 65 or so it's got to be a cutting monster. :eek:

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:48 pm
by Deadboxhero
The Mastiff wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:38 pm
I never thought about 15V running that hard. I thought rc 63-64 was tops. If it has decent stability at that hardness it will be in a whole different category from the steels I've tried and not liked such as S125V @ rc 64. Even at rc 65 or so it's got to be a cutting monster. :eek:
I'll send ya a Mule to test Joe. I'll finish that m3-1 steel knife as well unless you would rather have the 15v finished thenstead?

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:49 pm
by The Mastiff
Your choice and at your convenience. :D

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:08 pm
by Deadboxhero
The Mastiff wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:49 pm
Your choice and at your convenience. :D
;)

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:11 pm
by Pelagic
That is so awesome Shawn. Joe, any feedback you give will be golden.

Re: Sal, Can we get CPM 15v?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:39 pm
by The Meat man
Deadboxhero wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:19 pm
Cleans up nice. I'll continue testing with the remaining unfinished knives and update the thread.

Image

Look forward to seeing some CPM 15v Sal


-Shawn

Beautiful!