Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

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Are you as interested in sharpening knives as you are collecting them?

No, I prefer to let someone else sharpen my knives (Shipping back to the maker or similar)
4
3%
No, I sharpen out of pure necessity like putting air in my car tires, not out of any particular interest
39
26%
Yes, I love sharpening knives with a guided system and seeing how sharp I can get them
39
26%
Yes, I love sharpening knives free hand and seeing how sharp I can get them
51
34%
Other
19
13%
 
Total votes: 152

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Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby Vivi » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:31 pm

When I first got into quality pocket knives, I immediately wanted to know how to sharpen them.

I remember trying out my kitchen steel on my Delica 4 saber grind and not being happy with the results. So one day I told myself, "I am going to learn how to do this," and set about reading all the information I could on knife sharpening. I bought some different sharpening supplies to try out...everything from a ceramic kitchen steel, to a strop, to DMT diamond plates.

It took a while to sift through the information and find what works and what doesn't. There's a lot of bad info out there on knife sharpening.

It took a bit to get a feel for it and develop a steady hand, but before too long I was putting sharp edges on all matter of knives.

From there I read Cliff Stamp's writings, which led me to the world of reprofiling for more efficient slicing ability.

In the end, sharpening is as much of a hobby to me as knife collecting is. To me, a knife isn't "mine" until I've removed the factory edge and put my own on. Just like I wouldn't buy a pair of shoes from a store and keep the lace tension exactly as they came from the factory...I customize it to my own foot.

Over the last decade, I've noticed, surprisingly to me, a large amount of people do not share my fascination with sharpening, despite being into quality cutlery. Of the ones who do, less than half seem interested in free hand sharpening in particular.

In fact, I find it's very rare to see photos of knives posted on knife forums that don't have the factory edge on them. I'm not talking about the knives having not been reprofiled either...but the edge bevel clearly still has the same marks it did when it came from the factory.

So, I'd like to make a poll to see where the numbers fall.

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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby Mom3ntuM » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:49 pm

I do enjoy sharpening my knives, and i'm not satisfied with any blade until i can slice a freehanging neewspapersheet without snags or rippingsounds. I use the edge pro apex4 and i strop with flexcut gold stropping compound.
I used to freehand sharpen but i had to strop A LOT to get the desired edge so i switched to a guided system. Guess im not Good at freehand.
i have a few unsharpened blades, but that's because They have never been used, i rarely use a blade before I've sharpened it myself.
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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby Woodpuppy » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:53 pm

Crud I need an undo button... I picked option two before I saw “other”. I do get satisfaction out of success and a job well done. But it’s still a chore I guess. I use the sharpmaker almost exclusively though I learned on bench stones.
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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby toocool006 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:56 pm

I put down other - so far I haven't gotten into sharpening the way I have gotten into appreciating knives for their design and production. I would very much like to get into sharpening, but I think (maybe this is all in my head?) there is a much higher barrier to entry for really getting into sharpening vs. researching and trying out different models. Certainly the time commitment is different (or maybe the laziness quotient is different :-p). Thanks for the compelling question Vivi, and here's hoping it inspires me to get off my butt and start really working this sharpmaker that's currently just sitting in a drawer...
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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby dsvirsky » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:56 pm

I had to vote, "other." I learned to sharpen freehand more than half a century ago and still enjoy being able to put a good edge on my knife this way. And, like the OP, I don't really feel that a knife is mine until I've put my edge on it. However, I can't say that I see sharpening as anything more than basic knife maintenance.

I also find it "interesting" how many knives posted in pocket dump and EDC threads clearly still have the original factory/maker's edge and not a single mark to indicate the knife has ever been used.

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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby Woodpuppy » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:59 pm

dsvirsky wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:56 pm
I also find it "interesting" how many knives posted in pocket dump and EDC threads clearly still have the original factory/maker's edge and not a single mark to indicate the knife has ever been used.
That’s what we need, a beater picture thread. I’d have to dig up a Benchmade for that, my current crop of spydies are all too new to show heavy use. No factory bevels on my users though!
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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby sir_mike » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:12 pm

I don't love it but I don't have it either! I guess I may be more into it if I actually used my knives more than I do now. Since they don't see alot of use, they don't see alot of sharpening either but I do have a few options for sharpening here, both guided and free hand setups.

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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby Mom3ntuM » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:16 pm

Beater thread would be COOL,, here is evidence that i sharpen my knives 😋
Beater tenacious Vs brand New backup tenacious..
I've probably sharpened the beater a 100 times or more, does'nt hold an edge very Good (8cr13mov)but is easy and fast to sharpen, just what i need for work as the edge gets damaged no matter what steel is used.
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Postby Mom3ntuM » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:17 pm

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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby DirtMcGirt » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:18 pm

I voted option 4. I’m fairly new to freehand, and think that may play a role in why it is so much fun for me right now. Though I can see why some of the veteran free handlers may see it as a chore.
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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby Jazz » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:29 pm

Took years and years to learn to sharpen freehand well. I can do a mean edge now. Not bragging at all. I’m a cook. I should know how to get a knife to cut a ripe tomato.

Anyway, I really dislike sharpening a lot, though am very thankful to know how and have the tools. I really hate getting a new knife with a 20° or shallower edge angle. Then I have to redo it if I want to be able to enjoy it at all.

A coworker bugged me to sharpen her 12” chef knife. Ugh. I did it, and sure enough, she cut herself. What I’m saying is, I can, but would rather not.
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Postby The Meat man » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:51 pm

I just recently bought my first guided system (Hapstone V7) so I voted option 3.

However I also sharpen freehand, did for years and I enjoyed it. There's something about freehanding that is more satisfying. It's a good skill to have and it takes a lot of practice.
That said, I am looking forward to being able to get a more consistent edge with the Hapstone. Maybe down the road, I'll invest in some good diamond or CBN bench stones and get back into freehand, but for now I'm happy with the Hapstone.
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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby dogrunner » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:01 pm

I appreciate fine tools and know the importance of maintenance to get the most out of them, but I see sharpening as a chore that needs to be done to make the knife as effective a tool as possible. I do not have a lot of patience or time for it, so I used a sharpmaker when that is sufficient, or a guided system when I have to.
I really like mountain biking, but I do not enjoy cleaning the bike or maintenance. Those are necessary investments to get the most enjoyment out of riding.
In both cases, I want to be able to do the work myself, to make sure it gets done well. If I had a great knife that stayed sharp with no work or a bike that was a great ride with no maintenance (and I could afford such magic), that is what I would have!

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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby Vivi » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:07 pm

Mom3ntuM wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:16 pm
Beater thread would be COOL,, here is evidence that i sharpen my knives 😋
Beater tenacious Vs brand New backup tenacious..
I've probably sharpened the beater a 100 times or more, does'nt hold an edge very Good (8cr13mov)but is easy and fast to sharpen, just what i need for work as the edge gets damaged no matter what steel is used.
1542244013906232.jpg
Those pictures are awesome. Someone should start a beater thread in the photo gallery.

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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby Vivi » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:08 pm

DirtMcGirt wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:18 pm
I voted option 4. I’m fairly new to freehand, and think that may play a role in why it is so much fun for me right now. Though I can see why some of the veteran free handlers may see it as a chore.
I think the reason why it stays interesting to me vs the example I used in the poll (putting air in tires) is that I view it as a skill. Even if I've sharpened a knife 100 times, it still takes some degree of skill to do it right the 101st time.

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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby knolan » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:14 pm

For my 2 cents, guided systems gives the end user "repeatabilty" assuring consistently apexed edges across a number of knives. Repeatability and consistency is big in the world of engineers.

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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby ZrowsN1s » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:32 pm

I love sharpening. I've had guided systems, and the sharpmaker for a while, I think next year I'm finally going to invest in some quality stones for free hand sharpening. Probably CBN water stones of some type. Haven't decided yet.
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Postby RadioactiveSpyder » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:57 pm

I send many of my knives to Josh at Razor Edge Knives to sharpen. There is zero chance I could even begin to match his skill, and I basically don’t have enough time to sharpen knives (or learn to sharpen properly) in my life right now. :rolleyes: Maybe someday...
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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby murphjd25 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:18 pm

Yes, i find sharpening my knives to be very calming and stress relieving. I’ve just recently taken back up sharpening free hand and put my sharpmaker up for a rest. It’s very satisfying to get a knife scary sharp.
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Re: Is your interest in sharpening on the same level as your interest in knives?

Postby SharpieB » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:21 pm

I can’t stand sharpening. I have a Sharpmaker and a few other inexpensive sharpeners but only use them when absolutely necessary.


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