Smock Anticipation

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby TkoK83Spy » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:34 pm

I expect all my Spydercos to be sharp out of the box. But this one, man...dangerously sharp! Glad I'm not the only one to get that lucky!

At the moment, I don't see any of my other knives kicking it out of a my pocket...which hasn't happened to me before! I normally rotate knives daily so they all get some love.

This could possibly be my new favorite!
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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby spyderg » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:11 pm

Well it appears to have made it through customs! Expected delivery friday...
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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby holeshot » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:37 pm

spyderg wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:11 pm
Well it appears to have made it through customs! Expected delivery friday...
SWEET! You will not be disappointed. :)
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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby Jazz » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:43 pm

I love the idea of a button to operate the compression lock. I’d have more comp locks if they had that.
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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby koenigsegg » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:29 pm

I have the worst luck with preorders, I want a new knife so bad haha
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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby spyderg » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:44 pm

koenigsegg wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:29 pm
I have the worst luck with preorders, I want a new knife so bad haha
I tried a preorder once, KC. Never again. I ended up cancelling, they took ten times more preorders than the stock they were set to receive then leave you hanging. I ended up getting from a Cdn retailer a few months later. Shortly after I got mine some of the same ppl that preordered at the same time as me were still waiting. This time my plan was to order from a Cdn retailer but got impatient, I saw Dlt had in stock and ordered.
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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby Hatchet 7419 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:40 am

BigGrove wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:07 am
Received mine a couple days ago. I was prepared to be let down by this one, but instead it was a nice surprise. Ergos are decent and the flipper tab design works well. So far I've not had any slippage issues with the tab using my index or thumb. The slim design is the big winner for me. The Smock just carries so well in the pocket.

My biggest disappointment is the clip location. Normally I don't obsess with having everything deep carry but I just didn't care for it here. That may be partly because Kevin originally designed a different clip for it (shown here) but gave up on it since it wasn't lefty friendly.
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Anyway, I had a Pops Custom Clips titanium laying around, so I put it on. I like it better. I can't help but wonder how the Spyderco wire clip would have worked with this design.
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That fits it perfect at least I think so lol

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby Hatchet 7419 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:41 am

Classy

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby Hatchet 7419 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:45 pm

If you don’t mind me asking how did you go about ordering with pops customs . I just checked their website and it says they’re on a break trying to catch up on orders. .

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby BigGrove » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:13 am

Hatchet 7419 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:45 pm
If you don’t mind me asking how did you go about ordering with pops customs . I just checked their website and it says they’re on a break trying to catch up on orders. .
Last order I placed with Pops was summer 2018. It took a long time for them to ship it, but I knew that going in.

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby DSH007 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:38 am

Hi All,

I received my Smock last Thursday and have been carrying it exclusively since then. I was very excited for this one prior to its release, but I have to admit, I've had some mixed feelings about it since getting it in hand. Here are some of my thoughts, good and bad..

Pros:
-Fit and finish are typical Taichung perfect.. no issues at all there.. centering, lockup, etc.. all perfect.. the Smock is a beautifully crafted knife and I don't think that anyone can argue with that.

-The action is smooth as butter right out of the box - deployment is easy via flipper tab* or thumb hole opener, and the button-compression lock seems to work great, allowing the blade to pretty well drop shut with ease.

-As others have mentioned, my Smock arrived with a surgical degree of sharpness right out of the box.. I expect all knives, especially Spydercos, to be functionally sharp out of the box.. but wow!.. the Smock is just impressively sharp!

-Carryability is great with the Smock - I put an MXGGear deep carry clip on my knife - it fits well. Because the overall profile of the knife is so narrow, it takes up very little space in the pocket, which is nice compared to something like, say a Manix.

Cons:
- *one caveat to my "easy deployment via flipper tab" comment would be that I was very surprised to see that there were no jimping on the flipper tab. The finish on the flipper tab's surface is very smooth.. in practice, I haven't found this to hinder deployment as often as I thought it would, but I do feel that sometimes my finger slips off of the tab prematurely and the blade does not fully deploy; this is easily remedied by a flick of the wrist, as the knife's action is so smooth, but still, it is something that I've observed happen during use. If your hands are wet (rain, food prep, etc.) I imagine this would be more of an issue. I would have liked to have seen some jimping, or maybe even a just a more rough finish on that contact surface of the flipper tab to provide more purchase during deployment.

-I hesitate to say this, because it's something that is so subjective and I'm sure that others will have differing opinions, but.. in my opinion.. the Smock is among the least ergonomic Spydercos that I've handled. I have pretty large hands.. not crazy large, but L/XL glove size.. and find that the overall slim profile of the Smock's handle has a difficult time filling up my hand in a way that is comfortable to me.. but somehow at the same time, the section of the handle near the pivot is just a little bit too "blocky." I understand this is necessary to facilitate the positioning of the flipper tab, but it makes the handle feel lop-sided to me, being being thicker at the pivot and narrowing throughout its length rather than the other way around. My index and middle fingers feel ok against the pivot section (albeit a little blocky) and choil in the handle, but my ring and pinky fingers struggle to hold on to the narrow section of the handle beneath the choil because there is just not enough handle there to fill up my grip. I also think this happens because the handle is so straight.. if if was just a little bit curved, all of my fingers would be able to get a better purchase on it. Idk if I've explained that well enough for it to make sense to anybody or not.. Again, I suppose it's a very subjective thing.. feel free to tell me I'm a crazy person, I won't hold it against you..

- The "faux choil" in the blade - from a design standpoint, I get why this is here - it needs to be to accommodate the button-comp lock. But from a usability perspective.. the thing just scares me. I feel like its just a matter of time before I try to choke up my grip and get poked by the blade..

Overall:
I do actually really like the Smock. It is undeniably cool and I like the looks of the knife a lot. For my gripes over the ergos, it's really not that bad to get a grip on and use safely.. it wouldn't be my choice for a hard/extended use knife, but for general edc use, it will certainly get the job done. It's just not as comfortable to me as other Spydercos that I own and will probably end up eventually getting bumped from my pocket for this reason.

I do appreciate the innovation that went into the this knife.. the compact flipper tab and button-comp lock are impressive, even at the expense of some added blockiness in the pivot section of the handle and diminished blade length. I have read often on this forum about Spyderco's "design in the dark" philosophy.. I feel like there were maybe some lights on in the room when the Smock was designed. To me, it feels like this knife was designed around the button-comp lock and flipper tab more so than the hands of the end user. Not to say this is a bad thing.. they are really neat features.. just maybe don't expect a knife that is as comfortable in the hand as a Manix or Stretch or PM2 or Para 3 or Delica or Native and so on, etc..

Anyways, this is getting a little long-winded.. Thanks all for entertaining my ramblings..

I hope you enjoy your Smocks!

Rick
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..well, that escalated quickly..

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby Texan42 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:59 pm

Thanks for the info, well written.

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby BigGrove » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:01 pm

DSH007 wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:38 am
To me, it feels like this knife was designed around the button-comp lock and flipper tab more so than the hands of the end user.
I feel this is the key point of your review and agree that the needle points a bit more towards form rather than function. Still an interesting design.

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby SalomonA » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:08 pm

Just got my shipping email for my smock I ordered from campsaver. It cost 130, but i just had to wait awhile. I guess everyone did.

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby Hatchet 7419 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:35 pm

It has arrived😁

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby Hatchet 7419 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:35 pm

Knifecenter charged the map price $167

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby Liquid Cobra » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:18 pm

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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby TkoK83Spy » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:38 pm

Looks good LC!! Now you've got me interested in how my bronze clip would look...
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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby Sharp Guy » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:26 pm

Hatchet 7419 wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:35 pm
Knifecenter charged the map price $167
Why would you think they wouldn't charge the map price? BTW, map price for the Smock is $162.50 and is what all the big dealers are charging, including KC.
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Re: Smock Anticipation

Postby Catamount123 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:40 pm

People can, and will, complain about map pricing, but it does help keep the good dealers in business.
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