That's a good point "Wanimator" because even a couple of older BUCK models I had with linerlocks never failed on me and I used the hell out of two of those. My first two Benchmade models both had liner locks (models 640 & 650 Boguszewski Spikes) and I had those bad boys in use for over 12 years but no failure at all.
Well said EVIL D!! I've been carrying one of the Military models for about 4 out of the past 5 years ( XHP & M390) and I've used those blades without mercy on some jobs but yet no failure of the locking systems. But I do maintain, clean, sharpen and lubricate my folders on a regular basis. And yes it does matter how you take care of something even if it is as good as a Spyderco or other premium make of knife. I've had at least 6 Military models since 2003 and I've never had any of the liner locks ever fail on me. Would I rather have a compression lock? Sure I do like them a bit better but there is nothing wrong with the liner lock they use on the C-36 Military model>>> case closed!!
Thank you for posting this, because that was a related question I had, though not for locks in particular, regarding some of the earlier Spyderco models, the question being: Are there people on the forum who have any of the original Spyderco folders, such as the Worker, Mariner, Police and also the early Endura and Delica models, that have had them in constant use since then, rather than having them kept away for collector purposes, and if yes, how have they fared as far as cutting chores go. Your answer answered my question perfectly. That is a great testimony to the quality of Spyderco.The Mastiff wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:27 pmMy first model Enduras and Delicas are still as reliable as ever and seem to get smoother and smoother over the years. Only the original plastic clip is needing work/replacement. The knives themselves should be good for another 28 years ( first 2 purchased in 92) and probably many more. Two have been through the washer and dryer 4 or 5 times each along with trips to the Atlantic ocean for week long beach vacations along with uncounted swims in our heavily chlorinated pool. I carry newer models only because I was bored and wanted newer ones not because of any lack of performance. I just prefer VG 10, Super Blue, HAP 40 over Gin 1 and ATS 55 but to be honest I'd be fine having to rely on either of the older ones. Each one was my EDC for 5 years or longer. The basic design is timeless and only abuse will kill them.
The liner lock on the Millie is a thing of beauty. While it doesn't have the closing bias I want, I have 100% faith in it keeping the knife locked open. I love how the tang is curved to reduce lock travel.
I've had liner locks from $10-$220 develop vertical play, some Spydies. I've had four of them close when they shouldn't have (None were Spydercos, theirs have never closed on me).The Meat man wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:38 amI also don't understand why you almost never hear anything good said about the linerlock. It has to be one of the easiest and most intuitive locks to manipulate, it's strong and dependable, and unlike the backlock, it does not allow any vertical blade play.
I carried a "cheap" ($25) Kershaw linerlock knife doing construction for nearly 10 years, using it harder in some ways than my Spyderco knives, and I never had that lock fail on me. And that was an inexpensive Kershaw knife, not a $100+ Spyderco.
This is an opinion.
I could forgive this because I could have expressed myself badly here. On a rainy day when i was cutting cardboard i stumbled and in falling the spine of the S110V Military hit something causing the blade to close that nearly cut the last 2 phalanges of my right index. But i'm lucky that the Military Model came about after someone asked Spyderco's owner Sal Glesser, "If your son were going into the military what folding knife would you send him with?", cause if it wasn't designed for the army who knows how it would have gone.
If you don't want replies, don't spit crap, two-bit pseudolinguist.
Well, I have personal friends who work in LE, one who works for one of the alphabet agencies. When these gentlemen are in a military style utility uniform a small fixed blade is an option. When in plain clothes, a folder is often the only option. When in a conventional LE uniform with pistol, spare mags, taser, cuffs, radio, etc there's often no room on the duty belt for a fixed blade, and a folder in the pants pocket is the best option. Even when they can carry a fixed blade, most of these gents carry a folder as a backup. Yes, the odds of one these guys using a folder for anything serious are infinitely small, but they plan and train for the worst case scenario, not the best case.MichaelScott wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:41 pmI guess the logical conclusion one has to draw is that in situations in which considerable force may be applied to the spine of a knife, accidentally or otherwise, a fixed blade is the sensible solution. I am sure that is why those of us on my ship who worked on deck during UNREPS and other sea detail evolutions left our folding knives in our pockets or lockers and carried sheath knives instead.
Still, given my sedentary life, I feel comfortable with any lock system on Spyderco knives and would likely feel the same with other quality makes.