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Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby afalcone » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:16 am

Just some late night thinking here. I'm sitting and wondering if this is even possible. I would be a beautiful thing to maintain the Chaparral's thickness (of lack there of) while still allowing it to have the one handed, fidget-friendly operation that the compression lock would allow. Thoughts?

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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby sal » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:39 pm

Hi Afalcone,

Welcome to our forum.

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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby Sjucaveman » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:48 pm

afalcone wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:16 am
Just some late night thinking here. I'm sitting and wondering if this is even possible. I would be a beautiful thing to maintain the Chaparral's thickness (of lack there of) while still allowing it to have the one handed, fidget-friendly operation that the compression lock would allow. Thoughts?
The sage series was meant to try different locks and the chaparral is for different scale materials and finishes. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby SalomonA » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:37 pm

Sjucaveman wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:48 pm
afalcone wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:16 am
Just some late night thinking here. I'm sitting and wondering if this is even possible. I would be a beautiful thing to maintain the Chaparral's thickness (of lack there of) while still allowing it to have the one handed, fidget-friendly operation that the compression lock would allow. Thoughts?
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The sage series was meant to try different locks and the chaparral is for different scale materials and finishes. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
I know the chaparral is known for its variety of scales, but I've been waiting for spyderco to make a compression lock knife that has a thin blade like the chaparral. I know there is the ourosboros, but i would prefer a more practical blade shape. I would be even happier if they just made the pm2 blade stock thinner. I know it would be a bit more fragile, but it would be well worthy trade off for those of us that would like to carry a laser of a knife.

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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby sal » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:23 pm

Compression Locks work best with enough distance in the ramp for wear. A thin blade reduces the ramp size.

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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby Rutger » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:06 pm

I can easily operate my Chaparral with one hand. When i press the lock the blade free swings down and then i can just move my thumb and push the blade in. Also pretty fun to fidget with, just different than a compression lock knife. I love the snap sound of the back lock.

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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby Sharp Guy » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:13 pm

Rutger wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:06 pm
I can easily operate my Chaparral with one hand. When i press the lock the blade free swings down and then i can just move my thumb and push the blade in. Also pretty fun to fidget with, just different than a compression lock knife. I love the snap sound of the back lock.
^ Both my Chaparrals are the same. I'm very happy with the overall design including the lock. No need to change anything IMO.
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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby knivesandbooks » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:58 pm

No, backlock is best.
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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby RobDigi » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:30 pm

The Chap is a great form as is.
Spyder hole, Strong back lock, Easy one hand open close, Thin profile Laser blade,
Choil and Thumb ramp, Solid and Compact.
Great urban pocket knife or gentleman’s folder.
I would like to see some exotic Woods or Bone frames.

Also just my preference this knife is meant to be clipless
(unless for some reason you really need a clip)
it’s liberating to remove it.

On my titanium 3 step,
it melts into the hand without the clip,
and I wanna see that dang beautiful piece.
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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby TkoK83Spy » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:36 pm

Keep the Chap just as it is. Different handle materials is fun, XHP steel is great on this small knife as well.
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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby knivesandbooks » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:04 am

This is one of those knives you don't change. This knife design deserves to enjoy years of life the way it was designed. It is next to perfect for what it is meant to be.
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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby this_is_nascar » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:48 am

Not sure why so many want to change the Chaparral into something it was never designed to be. Keep the lock, keep the steel and change up the scales every 12-18 months. Go pick apart a different knife, please.

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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby Rutger » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:47 am

Vivi wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:19 pm
https://streamable.com/ey373

Backlocks fidget just fine :)
Like this yes. And mine doesn't even need that wrist action to drop the blade. Can do this super fast.

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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby ugaarguy » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:55 am

this_is_nascar wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:48 am
Not sure why so many want to change the Chaparral into something it was never designed to be. Keep the lock, keep the steel and change up the scales every 12-18 months. Go pick apart a different knife, please.
The Chap is a 7/8 (3/4?) scale Sage 4 with Sage 1 handles and a thin blade. The Native, Lil' Native, and even the Urban have essentially the same grip lines. The Sages and the Chap have a ramp that's intermediate between the no thumb ramp Natives and the high thumb ramp of the Urban (and many other Spydies). The Chaparral is another variant of the frequently tweaked classic Sal design with a really thin blade. I think people want that classic design and thin blade format with other lock types, so they just say Chaparral with x,y,z lock to communicate it more succinctly. Maybe that's lazy, and it clearly annoys some die hard Chap fans.

On the bright side, look at Sal's comment above. Apparently the Chap is too thin to work with a compression lock, so you don't have to worry about it.

Now we just need a Chaparral with a BBL or CBBL. Or a Chaparral RIL with a flipper tab and ball bearing pivot. That would be super cool. :D :p

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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby Dazen » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:33 pm

With all the talk of what could replace a Chaparral, I start to think that only a Chaparral can replace a Chaparral. I see Sal’s comment but I guess I don’t see anything wrong with near 100% lock up. I would ultimately like to see the Chaparral in compression lock, but having this thin blade in a variety of locks like the Lil Native and Manix would be amazing.

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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby araneae » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:01 pm

Why not ask for a lil native with a thinner blade stock? I'm with the majority, the chap shouldn't be messed with.
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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby ugaarguy » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:33 pm

araneae wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:01 pm
Why not ask for a lil native with a thinner blade stock? I'm with the majority, the chap shouldn't be messed with.
I answered that a year ago.
"The Chap is a 7/8 (3/4?) scale Sage 4 with Sage 1 handles and a thin blade. The Native, Lil' Native, and even the Urban have essentially the same grip lines. The Sages and the Chap have a ramp that's intermediate between the no thumb ramp Natives and the high thumb ramp of the Urban (and many other Spydies). The Chaparral is another variant of the frequently tweaked classic Sal design with a really thin blade. I think people want that classic design and thin blade format with other lock types, so they just say Chaparral with x,y,z lock to communicate it more succinctly. Maybe that's lazy, and it clearly annoys some die hard Chap fans."

I really don't get why some people get so bent out of shape about adding a variant of an existing knife. I don't think anyone is saying Spyderco should discontinue the back lock Chap and replace it with an RIL Chap - even though I'd be totally for that since the Sage 2 is discontinued and I'm not a fan of backlocks. But I'm not advocating that. Not yet anyway :p

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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby araneae » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:50 pm

I was responding to the previous comment asking for "having this thin blade in a variety of locks like the Lil Native and Manix would be amazing." ;)
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Re: Chaparral Compression Lock?

Postby ugaarguy » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:08 pm

That wasn't clear to me because you also wrote that you're in the don't mess with the Chap camp, which goes to back to further into the thread than just the last post. This is also an example of why my double PhD friend, who used to run a major USDA diagnostic lab, says I'm one of the most analytical people they know. :o


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