Spydercos with Micarta scales?

[M4Life]

Hey guys does anybody else think it would be cool if Spyderco made some models with micarta scales in the future?

(If this is already a thing and I’m just forgetting a model, then my bad)

[Demon85z]

Hey guys does anybody else think it would be cool if Spyderco made some models with micarta scales in the future?

(If this is already a thing and I’m just forgetting a model, then my bad)

I love micarta, more so than g10. Off hand the only knife I have and know of is the temperance 2 fixed blade.

[tvenuto]

The lum tanto fixed blades were micarta.

Sal has stated that they have had issues with dimensional stability with micarta when it ends up in different climates. They are unlikely to make anything, in spite of the frequent requests.

[vivi]

I'd buy a lot more Spyderco fixed blades if they used micarta. Feels much better in the hand than bi-directional FRN IMO.

Probably would raise the cost a significant amount though. FRN can be molded directly to the knife. Micarta needs contouring to match up well.

[ugaarguy]

The lum tanto fixed blades were micarta.

Sal has stated that they have had issues with dimensional stability with micarta when it ends up in different climates. They are unlikely to make anything, in spite of the frequent requests.

IIRC, Sal said that was specifically an issue with liner locks and that back locks are less affected by it. IIRC he also said that knives with metal liners on both sides are more resistant to the dimensional shifts in Micarta from humidity. Sal has also said that he wants a Shaman in Micarta and S90V, and has hinted that at least one distributor may make that happen as an exclusive.

IIRC, the Calypso and Calypso Jr from the late 90's didn't have any issues with their Micarta scales.

Last, Buck just released modernized versions of their 110 and 112. The S30V blade pro variants are available with black G10 scales and two colors of Micarta. The Benchmade Proper has been out for a while now with at least one Micarta scale option. It seems to me that Micarta is having a resurgence in popularity as a knife handle material, so I'm hopeful that we'll see at least one model from Spyderco with such scales.

[Rutger]

The lum tanto fixed blades were micarta.

Sal has stated that they have had issues with dimensional stability with micarta when it ends up in different climates. They are unlikely to make anything, in spite of the frequent requests.

They are testing the material again now for a possible Cruwear Shaman with Micarta handles. According to Sal the dimensional stability is less of a concern if the knife has full steel liners. We will have to wait and see if these tests are positive.

[tvenuto]

Keep in mind that the issues might be invisible to the ELU and may take the form of higher QC reject rates.

I’m hopeful for micarta in the future as well. I like natural handle materials as well. So, it’s good they’re looking at it again.

[RLR]

I have carried, and still carry my ATS55 micarta Dyad Jr extensively. Zero issues and great handle material.

[Supacede]

Had a similar thought a couple months ago..

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[JonLeBlanc]

I'm not a fan of the more heavily textured micarta, but man oh man is paper micarta ever svelte. So yeah, some Spydercos in that lol.

[FullCircleHook]

Forgive me while I act like my two year old...

Shaman! Shaman! Shaman!
In Cruwear Micarta...
Shaman! Shaman! Shaman!

[knivesandbooks]

IIRC Sal said the swelling and dimensional changes were from knives coming from humid Asia. I wonder if a Golden produced model would even face the troubles. Seems like the troubles were occuring from shipping cross pacific. I could be 100 percent wrong.

[ugaarguy]

IIRC Sal said the swelling and dimensional changes were from knives coming from humid Asia. I wonder if a Golden produced model would even face the troubles. Seems like the troubles were occuring from shipping cross pacific. I could be 100 percent wrong.

Probably, if examples of those theoretical Golden produced models ever ended up somewhere like GA, SC, AL, MS, LA, SE TX, Eastern NC, etc. Even Indiana is pretty humid in the summer, but then gets dry in the winter. Actually, Indiana's humid and dry seasonal cycles might be worse than somewhere like the deep south that stays humid year round.

[Sharp Guy]

Indiana's humid and dry seasonal cycles might be worse than somewhere like the deep south that stays humid year round.

I'm in N. TX now and it gets pretty humid in the summer but nothing like where I'm from in N. IL. When I went back home for a visit a couple months ago I had forgotten just how humid it gets there. I always assumed it was from being relatively close to Lake Michigan. I'm sure that's part of it. However, while I was there I saw a news piece about how all the corn dramatically increases the humidity during the summer. I'm sure Indiana is pretty much the same.

[ugaarguy]

Indiana's humid and dry seasonal cycles might be worse than somewhere like the deep south that stays humid year round.

I'm in N. TX now and it gets pretty humid in the summer but nothing like where I'm from in N. IL. When I went back home for a visit a couple months ago I had forgotten just how humid it gets there. I always assumed it was from being relatively close to Lake Michigan. I'm sure that's part of it. However, while I was there I saw a news piece about how all the corn dramatically increases the humidity during the summer. I'm sure Indiana is pretty much the same.

That's interesting. I wonder if it's the corn or the irrigation of the corn that adds to the humidity? Or the irrigated corn letting moisture back out into the air. I also thought that the humidity in S. Ga and the MS gulf coast was bad. Then the USAF let me have a couple lay overs in Qatar on the way to Iraq. Qatar is extremely humid.

[Bodog]

Indiana's humid and dry seasonal cycles might be worse than somewhere like the deep south that stays humid year round.

I'm in N. TX now and it gets pretty humid in the summer but nothing like where I'm from in N. IL. When I went back home for a visit a couple months ago I had forgotten just how humid it gets there. I always assumed it was from being relatively close to Lake Michigan. I'm sure that's part of it. However, while I was there I saw a news piece about how all the corn dramatically increases the humidity during the summer. I'm sure Indiana is pretty much the same.

That's interesting. I wonder if it's the corn or the irrigation of the corn that adds to the humidity? Or the irrigated corn letting moisture back out into the air. I also thought that the humidity in S. Ga and the MS gulf coast was bad. Then the USAF let me have a couple lay overs in Qatar on the way to Iraq. Qatar is extremely humid.

Dude, sitting on the ocean in the middle east isn't as humid southeast Georgia, haha. Fom Brownsville up to Galveston, over to Lake Charles and Biloxi and Pensacola and Panama City, nothing in the US is like the dripping sweat and nastiness of Glynn County, GA. Beautiful area, St. Simons and Tybee and Savannah are some of my favorite places, but good God, it's humid. The motorcycle riding there is hard to beat, though. The rides and food and people encountered from Charleston, SC down to St. Augustine are some of the best of the best.

[Doc Dan]

Buck has just released the 110 and 112 Slim Pro knives with S30V and your choice of brown or OD green micarta. They are linerless. I really love the look and feel of Micarta. I like canvas micarta on fixed blades, but I prefer linen or paper micarta on folders. Buck even has a barehead model with burlap micarta that is really interesting to look at.

I think Spyderco, of all companies, can overcome any issues they have had in the past and give us this wonderful material. This is my favorite scale material.

[Rutger]

Maybe the quality of the materials available is better now?

Many variables in how this stuff is made and priced. Biggest being what resin is used. Original Micarta is made with phenolic resin (aka Bakelite). But nothing is stopping a manufacturer to use the more expensive epoxy resin used for G10 instead to create a Micarta like material. Which is more dimensional stable. But i guess you would lose some of the grippyness.

[vivi]

Indiana's humid and dry seasonal cycles might be worse than somewhere like the deep south that stays humid year round.

I'm in N. TX now and it gets pretty humid in the summer but nothing like where I'm from in N. IL. When I went back home for a visit a couple months ago I had forgotten just how humid it gets there. I always assumed it was from being relatively close to Lake Michigan. I'm sure that's part of it. However, while I was there I saw a news piece about how all the corn dramatically increases the humidity during the summer. I'm sure Indiana is pretty much the same.

That's interesting. I wonder if it's the corn or the irrigation of the corn that adds to the humidity? Or the irrigated corn letting moisture back out into the air. I also thought that the humidity in S. Ga and the MS gulf coast was bad. Then the USAF let me have a couple lay overs in Qatar on the way to Iraq. Qatar is extremely humid.

Dude, sitting on the ocean in the middle east isn't as humid southeast Georgia, haha. Fom Brownsville up to Galveston, over to Lake Charles and Biloxi and Pensacola and Panama City, nothing in the US is like the dripping sweat and nastiness of Glynn County, GA. Beautiful area, St. Simons and Tybee and Savannah are some of my favorite places, but good God, it's humid. The motorcycle riding there is hard to beat, though. The rides and food and people encountered from Charleston, SC down to St. Augustine are some of the best of the best.

I rode a bicycle from Surfside Beach, Texas, headed east along the coast until I hit the eastern FL border, then went north a few states. Can confirm, it was extremely humid. Didn't help I went in the summer.