Maintaining factory edge.

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Maintaining factory edge.

Postby tps3443 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:13 pm

Hey everyone, I’m new to sharpening. And I want to properly maintain my Spyderco 8cr13mov edge if possible. I do not have a SharpMaker yet. I do have two of the easy kind knife sharpeners, you just pull the blade through them and it makes the knife sharp. The knife sharpeners I have, have two sides, one is abrasive and the other is fine. I’m afraid to use them on my knife, but if I just use the weight of the knife on the fine side without applying pressure, would that be enough to maintain the edge without harming the blade?

The sharpener I’m referring to has two ceramic rods in a X configuration with a blue coating on them. It’s very smooth, and it says do NOT apply pressure. Just let the weight of the rest on it, and pull the knife through a few times. I just wanna maintain the factory edge until I’m able to get a sharp maker.
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby Daveho » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:19 pm

Look into getting yourself a more serious sharpening system be it a bench stone,sharpmaker or some other system-
Personally I prefer lansky over the sharpmaker but that’s just me-
The factory edges on spyderco don’t seem to be all that crash hot but with even a modest system you will be able to put a much better edge on it.
8cr is a breeze to sharpen but to maintain an edge you might consider a strop-
I personally just glue bits of kangaroo tail leather to a board- cost like $6

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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby JonLeBlanc » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:32 pm

Man DONT use those pull thru sharpners on your spydercos, those things will ruin an edge. I mean, it’s not like you couldn’t restore it, but I say, why mess about in the first place lol.
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby The Meat man » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:59 pm

I would advise you to go ahead and get a Sharpmaker. That's what I did shortly after I got my first Spyderco knife. Touching up and maintaining my knives is SO much easier with the Sharpmaker! I know it costs as much as your knives did but it is well worth the investment.
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby Daveho » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:01 pm

Beyond brand loyalty, why a sharpmaker over any other?

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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby tps3443 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:07 pm

Luckily I have not used the pull through knife sharpener. I’m afraid of damaging the apex of the blade. Or dulling it. I’ve used them in kitchen knives, and they only seem to sharpen one side of the knife. And they create ugliest looking edge.

I did however use a piece of belt leather on a block of wood with a light abrasive metal polish. I worked backwards at a angle slightly less than what you would sharpen at. I did a few light passes on each side. I can say the knife seems sharper than factory. The apex is even, the edge is sharp.

This Tenacious was sharp in the first place. I’ve only cut 1 piece of paper with it since taking it out of the box.
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby tps3443 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:09 pm

Daveho wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:01 pm
Beyond brand loyalty, why a sharpmaker over any other?
I just watched a video on the SM. And it seemed easy for me. I’m open to anything that works properly.
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby Deadboxhero » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:20 pm

Daveho wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:01 pm
Beyond brand loyalty, why a sharpmaker over any other?
Better quality alumina stones and more options for uses with triangle shape. Also more features
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby Evil D » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:36 pm

Daveho wrote:
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Beyond brand loyalty, why a sharpmaker over any other?

Because I've never had a stone from Lansky that was flat or straight. They're nowhere near the same quality.
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby The Meat man » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:42 pm

Daveho wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:01 pm
Beyond brand loyalty, why a sharpmaker over any other?


I'm just giving recommendations based on my own experience. I don't know of any other brand of sharpener similar to Spyderco's. I know AG Russell sells a ceramic rod sharpener but it is fixed at only one angle, and it's a round rod so you couldn't do serrations.

I'll call it brand loyalty :)
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby kodai78 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:47 pm

I find the Sharpmaker easy to use, versatile and effective. It’s also relatively cost effective compared to some. I own an AG Russell sharpener, the angle is different and it really works only on pocket knives. Check out the Sharpmaker videos on YouTube to see how versatile the Sharpmaker is.
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby DBCOOPER » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:00 pm

As somebody who loves the sharpmaker, I'd suggest getting something to be able to rebevel your blade, weather it's sharpmaker with diamond rods or cbn rods, or a lansky system with diamonds (which may be the cheapest) and also these will both give that fresh factory edge look, more so lanskys tho
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby DBCOOPER » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:08 pm

Also, I'm not an expert but I've gotten way sharper knives using the sharpmaker then the lanskys, just my experience tho, I'd say 50$- shoot for lanskys, 50-100$+ is go sharpmaker with some diamond rods
200$+ edge pro or wicked edge go or kme,
I used to always suck at free handing but if your good at that look into dmt bench stones.
And the issues with lanskys diamond stones not being flat, it is very possible, they aren't very expensive so quality isn't always there,
Also the dmt aligner is similar in price and how lanskys works with actually perfectly flat stones.
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby tps3443 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:22 pm

I am not good at free hand sharpening, I’ve taken kitchen knives that are kinda sharp, and spent countless hours dulling them worse than a stick lol. I feel pretty confident stroping with leather working backwards, but that’s about it.

I’m not a fanboy or anything, but I can’t help but be one with how easy the SharpMaker video looks! It removes most of any technique or skill required in sharpening a blade to razor sharp. With that being said, I imagine people have gotten pretty skilled with using a SM. For only $62 bucks at Walmart. I gotta order one..
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby tps3443 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:34 pm

I’m new to knives this Spyderco Tenacious is my only knife. I’ve never carried a knife before in my life. I plan to get a Spyderco military S30V G10 as my next knife. I’m gonna have to keep them sharp or I’ll just leave them at home, which defeats the purpose. I can’t count how many times I’ve needed a knife, And I don’t have one. I got tired of that, so that’s why I bought one. Getting a easy knife sharpening device like the SharpMaker just comes with the territory I suppose.
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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby Daveho » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:02 pm

Personally for your circumstances of one knife in 8cr13Mov I wouldn’t worry about diamond stones and all that malarkey-
You will go a long way with just a pasted strop but if you are deadset on a sharpening system then anything suggested here will be suitable,
Even something like the golden stone would be pretty rad

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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby Slash » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:14 pm

Don't use the knife at all. If used, don't cut cardboard with it. Some of that is really nasty. Get a utility knife for that.

Bottom of coffee cup, top of car window glass, few other things work pretty good. Try those out, you'll see.

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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby hereiamu1 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:00 pm

My first reply didn't show up so I'll try again.
A strop and Sharpmaker is all you need. When a blade starts to dull try stropping first, if that doesn't work or doesn't last long go to the Sharpmaker.

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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby BornIn1500 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:10 pm

Slash wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:14 pm
Don't use the knife at all.

Uhhhh.... what?

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Re: Maintaining factory edge.

Postby Daveho » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:32 pm

Slash wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:14 pm
Don't use the knife at all. If used, don't cut cardboard with it. Some of that is really nasty. Get a utility knife for that.

Bottom of coffee cup, top of car window glass, few other things work pretty good. Try those out, you'll see.
Haha I did that on my little ambitious for ages!
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