Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

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Does the Chaparral make the Dragonfly Obsolete?

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Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby Doc Dan » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:14 am

With the advent of the Chaparral Light Weight, I wonder if the Dragonfly's best days are over. What we have is two beautifully executed knife designs. Both do a lot with a small package and both are ergonomic wonders. However, the Chaparral is almost the same closed size as the Dragonfly, but the blade and cutting edge are the size of the Delica. The Chaparral is a better slicer, overall. The Dragonfly does work well in office environments and places where the blade length of the Chaparral would be problematic.

Anyway, what do you think? Does the Chaparral Light Weight make the Dragonfly obsolete?
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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby Rutger » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:40 am

I think the Chaparral makes em both obsolete if the extra price is not an issue. Which it is worth with it's better XHP steel + fit and finish. But for many the ~$30 extra is a lot.

I don't find the chaparral blade length problematic for office environments. If you hold the knife with the choil there is not much blade sticking out of your hand. This in big contrast with a Delica. Which has no choil and the blade itself is more pointy looking. The leaf shape blades from Spyderco are just more friendly looking in my opinion.

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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby Spydergirl88 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:47 am

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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby Evil D » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:52 am

I can't give a fair option because I don't own a Chaparral, but that's also largely because I already own and love the Dragonfly.

I will say this much, that isn't going to change until the Chaparral is offered in SE/H1. It's a different story when it's PE vs PE but the SE Dragonfly Salt is a perfect knife.
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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby juggler » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:56 am

If I don't use the choil - and I usually don't - the Dragonfly is a 3 finger knife for me; but I can get a confortable 4 finger grip if I use a lanyard, which is not possible with a Chaparral (no lanyard hole).

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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby VashHash » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:58 am

I like the looks of the dragonfly. I don't think it's obsolete. I bought the salt version so I could wear it around my wrist in the water. This way I have a knife that's secure and readily available.
The dragonfly in frn is also $20 cheaper. Some would argue about blade steel but for almost the same price as a chap I can get a ZDP-189 dragonfly. I don't think either of those knives is going to be used hard so both of those steels would suffice for office carry if that's your usage. I don't own a chap though because I have a native 5. This was before MAP so I paid less for it than it goes for now. If you look at both of those knives the native 5 lw and the chap lw. They're very similar. So the question is does the native 5 make the chap obsolete? They were both offered in titanium too with special handle designs. Native comes in more steel options and handle colors in lw.

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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby Cscottsss » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:32 am

I don't have an opinion as to what knife is better as I've never owned nor handled a Chaparral but I own several Dragonflys and love them and in no way can a Dragonfly ever be obsolete. It's a classic Spyderco design and will never go out of style IMO.

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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby steelcity16 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:57 am

The Dragonfly Salt is one of my favorite models. Until there is an FRN Chaparral Salt this isn't even up for discussion. I still wish they would make blacked out PE and SE Dfly Salts. I do really hope we eventually see an FRN Chaparral Salt as well though. I think they would both get equal pocket time for me.

If you are talking about the Chaparral FRN vs the FRN VG10 Dfly 2, then I do tend to favor the Chaparral.
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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby u.w. » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:09 am

Absolutely not. Not only No, but Heck No!

Dragonfly and Chaparral are not in the same group... Is is safe to speculate you've not handled/used both?

Add to that - you can get how many different Dragonflys? Wood, Stainless, G10, linerless FRN (my favorite of them) - are there more? And how many different steels? Superblue, HAP40, H1, ZDP189, VG-10, V-TOKU2 - are there more? And either plain edge, or serrated (spyder) edge...

Both great knives for sure. I own, carry, use, and love both for sure. One does Not does not make the other obsolete...

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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby Sumdumguy » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:12 am

I won't say it's obsolete, but it's not for me.

I just got back from my local B&M and I can say that for me personally, the Ladybug and family are superior. The blade on the Dragonfly is much too small for the overall size of the knife.

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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby KP » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:46 am

Evil D wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:52 am
I can't give a fair option because I don't own a Chaparral, but that's also largely because I already own and love the Dragonfly.

I will say this much, that isn't going to change until the Chaparral is offered in SE/H1. It's a different story when it's PE vs PE but the SE Dragonfly Salt is a perfect knife.
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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby MichaelScott » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:51 am

Obsolete: no longer produced or used; out of date.

In that sense, no. But if compared to the Dragonfly the Chaparral is better in terms of design and function, a good case can be made in favor of the Chaparral. As Doc pointed out, the Chaparral’s blade is longer for the same size package, the steel is a bit better, the FRN more refined, the lock is better and the overall quality of construction and parts are superior to the Dragonfly.

Plenty of people may prefer the Dragonfly to the Chaparral but that doesn’t mean it is equal to or superior to the Chaparral.
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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby spyderwolf » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:03 am

I think the DF is a legend and as much part of Spyderco as the Delica/Endura.I love the little guy.
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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby Rutger » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:17 am

They use plenty of LC200N in Taichung and also got the right screws and wire clip in Ti (see Spydiechef/Caribbean) to make a Chaparral FRN Salt version. Hint hint Sal :rolleyes:

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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby rangefinder » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:24 am

They may be similar sizes, but the two knives are in different weight classes. The Spyderco website says the Chaparral FRN is 2.1 ounces (60 grams) and the Dragonfly FRN is 1.2 ounces (34 grams).

I've removed the clip and carry my Dragonfly loose in my pocket. Carried this way, any extra weight is very noticeable. I just weighed it, and my Dragonfly is 33 grams -- which makes it lighter than the key + remote fob for my car (36 grams).

The knife that might make the Dragonfly obsolete would be a FRN version of the Lil Native. If/when that comes out, I expect it will weigh less than the current G10 versions, and then I'd reconsider the Dragonfly as my secondary knife.

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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby DSH007 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:34 am

I have a Chaparral and a DF. Even though I really enjoy them both, they are among my least carried knives, mostly due to size, as I tend to prefer a sturdier mid-sized EDC knife (Para3, Native, Delica, etc). Regardless of my personal preferences, both are absolutely excellent knives. I would never consider either of them.. especially the DF.. "obsolete."
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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby The Deacon » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:00 am

Time and sales will tell, but I think there's room in the lineup for both of them. Can't say I've ever been a fan of the Dragonfly, but it's been in the lineup for 24 years, so some folks obviously do. There are still folks who will avoid knives from Taiwan but buy knives from Japan. There are folks who live in places with a 2.5" blade length limit. There are probably folks who prefer the Dragonfly's half millimeter thicker blade, or it's almost 1 ounce lighter weight, or just want some color other than grey.
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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby Sharp Guy » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:07 am

The DF isn't obsolete for me. I like both models equally and plan on using both for years to come.
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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby ladybug93 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:10 am

the dragonfly is one of the coolest looking little knives available by anyone and can be had in h1. it's also the most hand-filling tiny knife i’ve experienced. i don’t really care for the clip and i prefer larger knives generally, but the dragonfly is amazing for it’s purpose and could handle most daily tasks for most people. i doubt it’s going anywhere.

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Re: Is the Dragonfly Obsolete?

Postby elena86 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:54 am

The perfect folder for me would be a XL Dfly2(2.75 inch blade). That being said, it's a sweet little blade as it is. Sal's most inspired design ever IMHO. I wouldn't say the same thing about the Chaparral.
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