Sal, It may sound high. It may even be high. But it may also be quite low. The closest thing to complete list of the Q variants we collectors have to go by is the article Barry Carithers did for Knife World magazine back in December, 2003 that another member here (Spyderwa) was given permission to republish here. According to that list, 36,000 would be only a bit more than half the 62,000 combined total number of 1st and 2nd generation "Spyderco bug" Q's that were produced and does not even include any of the 59 other blade cutout designs that were made in smaller quantities ranging from 10 pieces to 3,900 pieces. I know that list is not completely accurate, as I own at least one (T&T Gunnery) and know of at least one other that do not appear on it, but it's the only reference we have to go by.
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Sal, It may sound high. It may even be high. But it may also be quite low. The closest thing to complete list of the Q variants we collectors have to go by is the article Barry Carithers did for Knife World magazine back in December, 2003 that another member here (Spyderwa) was given permission to republish here. According to that list, 36,000 would be only a bit more than half the 62,000 combined total number of 1st and 2nd generation "Spyderco bug" Q's that were produced and does not even include any of the 59 other blade cutout designs that were made in smaller quantities ranging from 10 pieces to 3,900 pieces. I know that list is not completely accurate, as I own at least one (T&T Gunnery) and know of at least one other that do not appear on it, but it's the only reference we have to go by.
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Thanx Paul,
It may be true? Barry worked for Spyderco. He was Peter's assistant. All of his info came from us. I don't have a figure. I'm trying to get some info. You'd think that someone would have kept these figure. I guess it's my bad for not?
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It may be true? Barry worked for Spyderco. He was Peter's assistant. All of his info came from us. I don't have a figure. I'm trying to get some info. You'd think that someone would have kept these figure. I guess it's my bad for not?
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Meh. Before the age of ubiquitous emails and infinite storage if you didn’t need info you just got rid of it. Honestly I think the foggy history of some of these old models is part of the fun. Uncovering the story and learning unexpected tidbits allows people to share finding and discuss.
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I'm also interested in a re-release of the "R" and "S", but I'm mostly interested in "Q". Maybe they could come up with a new model called "QRS" and combine all 3 somehow. :pLarry_Mott wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:57 amTo be brutally honest, the Q i a flimsy novelty item IMO.. I have one because it is interesting as a collector's piece, but if any of the "letter Spydies" deserve a re-run, the R and S are 100 x better.
I would have bought an "R" with the solid blade already if they were easier to find for a decent price... I can understand why a lot of people suggest it. If it's ever re-released, how about in K390?
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Thanks for the welcome. :) I really like your idea for a new Q to be released for the 45th anniversary! And it's cool to know others would like a Q that is designed for harder use.SpyderNut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:31 amYes! I would love you to see a rebirth of the Q. The Q was one of my first Spyderco purchases and has always been a favorite model of mine. With today’s technology, I would think a similarly skeletonized G-10 handle might be a possibility (depending on cost of production, of course). The original Qs are a great collectors’ piece, but it would be awesome to have a new Q that is meant to use and enjoy. Maybe this would make for the perfect 45th year Spyderco Anniversary model?
Welcome aboard, Mystery Flavor!
I was also thinking of skeletonized G10 for the handles. Or even titanium, but that would end up costing too much probably.
Imagine a new Q with that layered multi-colored G10, like is on the Caribbean, but machined into some kind of web or cut-out pattern. All the exposed edges of the G10 from skeletonizing it would reveal all the layers of colors. If done well that could look so detailed and beautiful, and still be strong. And it could be most any color combos of G10, since that stuff comes in many color patterns. That would go along with the theme of a fun and quirky knife that the Q has been.
Even plain black G10 or anything else would be good, as long as it is strong.
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I really like the skeletonized aspect of this series.
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Hello everyone,
For the first time I decided to take apart my Q 35SBK PRCA that I got new since the 90's. And thanks to all the infomation here and various site, I realised that I don't find bushings (or washers) in my Q. Is that normal ?
I don't think I can find videos of Q being taken apart, so I am asking here.
For the first time I decided to take apart my Q 35SBK PRCA that I got new since the 90's. And thanks to all the infomation here and various site, I realised that I don't find bushings (or washers) in my Q. Is that normal ?
I don't think I can find videos of Q being taken apart, so I am asking here.
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it would be awesome if they redid the R or the S. i dont like backlocks but i do think i would want to try an R model, same for a calypso jr. even tho i doubt i will ever get to try them.
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KJKeyserSoze wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:30 pmHello everyone,
For the first time I decided to take apart my Q 35SBK PRCA that I got new since the 90's. And thanks to all the infomation here and various site, I realised that I don't find bushings (or washers) in my Q. Is that normal ?
I don't think I can find videos of Q being taken apart, so I am asking here.
Perfectly normal. Few, if any, of Spyderco's unlined FRN models had washers. What you probably will see, if you look at the pivot area inside your Q's handle, are raised circular areas in the FRN itself surrounding the pivot hole. Most unlined FRN Spyderco handles have some version of them and they serve as "built in" pivot washers. If you think about it, that makes sense. Nylon washers are sometimes used in knives, so adding washers to a nylon handle would be somewhat redundant.
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cool, got it.The Deacon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:10 amKJKeyserSoze wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:30 pmHello everyone,
For the first time I decided to take apart my Q 35SBK PRCA that I got new since the 90's. And thanks to all the infomation here and various site, I realised that I don't find bushings (or washers) in my Q. Is that normal ?
I don't think I can find videos of Q being taken apart, so I am asking here.
Perfectly normal. Few, if any, of Spyderco's unlined FRN models had washers. What you probably will see, if you look at the pivot area inside your Q's handle, are raised circular areas in the FRN itself surrounding the pivot hole. Most unlined FRN Spyderco handles have some version of them and they serve as "built in" pivot washers. If you think about it, that makes sense. Nylon washers are sometimes used in knives, so adding washers to a nylon handle would be somewhat redundant.
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The "Q" was my idea and project. It did present its' challenges. I designed the knife, the clip and the lock, which were all unique. I don't know that we could do it the same today?
FYI, the concept of the clip and lock was based on a clip design used by Wichard. ( opposing forces in the bend ). We used the same concept for our Snap-It. We contacted Wichard and asked them if we could use their basic concept and what would the fee be for the patent royalties. They said that it had been knocked off by so many companies, that thank you for asking, but you should just go ahead and use it.
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FYI, the concept of the clip and lock was based on a clip design used by Wichard. ( opposing forces in the bend ). We used the same concept for our Snap-It. We contacted Wichard and asked them if we could use their basic concept and what would the fee be for the patent royalties. They said that it had been knocked off by so many companies, that thank you for asking, but you should just go ahead and use it.
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The S was the new Q and it was pretty sweet as a small knife with a compression lock.
Maybe we need to try to discus why the S didn't do well.
Maybe we need to try to discus why the S didn't do well.
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Would CQI dictate improvements/changes? If so, what would they be? Was the wire clip on the 'Q' the beginning of innovation of the wire clip? It does appear that the patent drawing is more Dragonfly like than 'Q'.
https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=053 ... /5,379,492
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Thanx Brian.
So much of our history of innovation is held in the minds of those, like Brian and Paul, that noticed us early on. Yes, it would be nice to have all of this captured on paper. Time being elusive, especially when one gets older and the earth turns faster so time is harder to catch and use.
Jim Phillips was planning on writing a complete history of Spyderco. He was a friend, writer and publisher. Unfortunately Jim passed recently.
Everyone is born with a little "bag of time". It has a hole in the bottom so time is always spilling out. One day the bag is empty. One needs to appreciate each moment of the life-time that we get. That was the basis of the company, "Happy Thoughts" that Gail and I have been trying to get launched for the past 20+ years.
The Happy Thoughts" coffee mug illustrates this with the "Happy Brain". Mike Janich took some photos of the mug, Maybe we can figure out how to show it. You can see the "Happy Brain" here http://www.happythoughts.com/ Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
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So much of our history of innovation is held in the minds of those, like Brian and Paul, that noticed us early on. Yes, it would be nice to have all of this captured on paper. Time being elusive, especially when one gets older and the earth turns faster so time is harder to catch and use.
Jim Phillips was planning on writing a complete history of Spyderco. He was a friend, writer and publisher. Unfortunately Jim passed recently.
Everyone is born with a little "bag of time". It has a hole in the bottom so time is always spilling out. One day the bag is empty. One needs to appreciate each moment of the life-time that we get. That was the basis of the company, "Happy Thoughts" that Gail and I have been trying to get launched for the past 20+ years.
The Happy Thoughts" coffee mug illustrates this with the "Happy Brain". Mike Janich took some photos of the mug, Maybe we can figure out how to show it. You can see the "Happy Brain" here http://www.happythoughts.com/ Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
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I can totally agree with that statement but with one condition>> I don't like any of the newer solid handled "R" models. I like the original skeletonized handled unit with the ATS-34 blade. That to me is the REAL "R" model.
I always thought that the "R" model was the highly refined version of the "Q".
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I love the R2 that Sal sent to me and I posted a review back in 2011.
https://www.countryknives.com/c67-rs-review/
I have been recently carrying it again as my EDC to torture test the flat ground VG10 blade. I have grown even more impressed by VG10 as a result. It holds a great edge and takes a razor edge rather quickly, especially as I sharpen at 15° and then micro-bevel at 20. If I were to make a straight razor in stainless VG10 would be the steel.
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https://www.countryknives.com/c67-rs-review/
I have been recently carrying it again as my EDC to torture test the flat ground VG10 blade. I have grown even more impressed by VG10 as a result. It holds a great edge and takes a razor edge rather quickly, especially as I sharpen at 15° and then micro-bevel at 20. If I were to make a straight razor in stainless VG10 would be the steel.
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