Re: FRN Police 4
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:14 pm
Dear Sal,
and wary of VG10 as it is an older steel,Doeswhateveraspidercan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:11 pmDear Sal,
I am late to the Party when it comes to VG10 but I have to say it is so good I purchased a second Spyderco Stretch2 tonight in VG10. I am having a very hard time considering it inferior to S30V and some other Steels as well.
At first I was anti FRN and wary of VG10 as it is an older steel, but as long as FRN has Steel liners it is good to go with me liking it very much. Gosh darn it liking FRN with Liners maybe better than G10 but without steel liners too much movement in the pivot for me.
I am very much enjoying your Stretch2 in both VG10 and ZDP189 with G10. Could we please get this awesome knife of your design in LC200N as well?
Black FRN with liners is great please no more yellow or bumble bee stuff I feel silly and it draws too much attention in the office.
Yep. D2 pre-dates World War 2 but people love it when chinese knives claim to be D2 :p500Nitro wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:29 pmand wary of VG10 as it is an older steel,Doeswhateveraspidercan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:11 pmDear Sal,
I am late to the Party when it comes to VG10 but I have to say it is so good I purchased a second Spyderco Stretch2 tonight in VG10. I am having a very hard time considering it inferior to S30V and some other Steels as well.
At first I was anti FRN and wary of VG10 as it is an older steel, but as long as FRN has Steel liners it is good to go with me liking it very much. Gosh darn it liking FRN with Liners maybe better than G10 but without steel liners too much movement in the pivot for me.
I am very much enjoying your Stretch2 in both VG10 and ZDP189 with G10. Could we please get this awesome knife of your design in LC200N as well?
Black FRN with liners is great please no more yellow or bumble bee stuff I feel silly and it draws too much attention in the office.
That is IMHO one of the biggest issues that people need to overcome in their minds.
Just because it's "old" doesn't mean it's not any good and perfectly handles the task at hand at the right price point.
I like Aus-8 but only because Its done well over the many many years.
I have an AUS8 TDI on me tonight. I recently gave it a fresh edge and took it up to 1,200 grit and it is incredibly sharp. Catches anything it touches as soon as it makes contact. Handy little knife for the $33 I paid.
I am feeling guilty because I have bad mouthed S30V. I do hanker for the newer steels, but this is not to say that S30V is bad, nor is VG10. Heck, I even like 154CM in one form or the other. But the price better be right for VG10 -- and even more so for 154CM.
knivesandbooks wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:09 pm
Other than the black vg10 and the burnt orange hap40 (please do that), I'd be most interested in OD Green with black dlc and desert tan / khaki. Burgundy and dlc would also be swell.
Man, I need to snag one of those Police 4's, it's just there's so many priorities on my budget lol. I've got I'd say two knives in line ahead of the P4, but then it will be mine mwuhahaha! I've really been liking the functionality of my 52100 Military's long blade, and it seems from everything I've heard about the P4 that it's design and ergos make it feel and carry like a smaller knife, which is important in this ahem... day and age. Vivi, do you have any observations on the corrosion resistance of K390? That is a property that I am actually not very concerned about, but it's still good to know how reactive a steel is.Vivi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:26 pmSad this wasn't in the 2019 catalog. Hopefully there is a reveal sometime down the road in 2019.
Until then, I'm glad I gave the K390 G10 model a shot. The steel has really inpressed me with how it sharpens and holds an edge, though I've yet to test the corrosion resistance as much as I'll be able to this summer.
JonLeBlanc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:00 pm... Vivi, do you have any observations on the corrosion resistance of K390? That is a property that I am actually not very concerned about, but it's still good to know how reactive a steel is.
Oh I see... It's not something that bothers me, just good to know. I wonder what the timeframe on the ZDP and K390 versions of Lightweight will be, I reckon a couple years, but who knows maybe Spyderco will surprise us and it'll be in he next catalog! :cool:Wartstein wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:37 pmJonLeBlanc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:00 pm... Vivi, do you have any observations on the corrosion resistance of K390? That is a property that I am actually not very concerned about, but it's still good to know how reactive a steel is.
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... Page 5 of the thread.... corrosion resistance seems to be not the best...
I think that link speaks for itself. K390 is more corrosion resistant for me than most carbon steels, but it's certainly not a stainless steel.JonLeBlanc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:00 pmMan, I need to snag one of those Police 4's, it's just there's so many priorities on my budget lol. I've got I'd say two knives in line ahead of the P4, but then it will be mine mwuhahaha! I've really been liking the functionality of my 52100 Military's long blade, and it seems from everything I've heard about the P4 that it's design and ergos make it feel and carry like a smaller knife, which is important in this ahem... day and age. Vivi, do you have any observations on the corrosion resistance of K390? That is a property that I am actually not very concerned about, but it's still good to know how reactive a steel is.Vivi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:26 pmSad this wasn't in the 2019 catalog. Hopefully there is a reveal sometime down the road in 2019.
Until then, I'm glad I gave the K390 G10 model a shot. The steel has really inpressed me with how it sharpens and holds an edge, though I've yet to test the corrosion resistance as much as I'll be able to this summer.
Rusted the liners you say ? That's interesting, and the same happened on the P4 model as well? Wow, something I would not have expected lolVivi wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:15 pmI think that link speaks for itself. K390 is more corrosion resistant for me than most carbon steels, but it's certainly not a stainless steel.JonLeBlanc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:00 pmMan, I need to snag one of those Police 4's, it's just there's so many priorities on my budget lol. I've got I'd say two knives in line ahead of the P4, but then it will be mine mwuhahaha! I've really been liking the functionality of my 52100 Military's long blade, and it seems from everything I've heard about the P4 that it's design and ergos make it feel and carry like a smaller knife, which is important in this ahem... day and age. Vivi, do you have any observations on the corrosion resistance of K390? That is a property that I am actually not very concerned about, but it's still good to know how reactive a steel is.Vivi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:26 pmSad this wasn't in the 2019 catalog. Hopefully there is a reveal sometime down the road in 2019.
Until then, I'm glad I gave the K390 G10 model a shot. The steel has really inpressed me with how it sharpens and holds an edge, though I've yet to test the corrosion resistance as much as I'll be able to this summer.
I've rusted the piners in my VG10 Police 3, but it took a few years vs a month to be as bad as the P4. I knew the blade wouldn't do the best in this regard but the liners and lock bar rusting as quickly as they did makes me think they used a less corrosion resistant metal there too. That or the K390 caused a reaction with them.
Either way the VG10 model excites me for that reason. I know most want the K390, but the G10 model is readily available, while a stainless Police isn't unless you count the classic P1.
I think I've said it before, but a P4 LW Salt would suit me fine just fine. :DVivi wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:47 pmYeah that's why I stick with a Pacific Salt pretty much every day during the summer. Just oil the blade they say. Well what about the liners, locking mechanism, screws, clips....I've rusted those too haha.
I'm really glad they make the salt line. It's been really nice having rust be an optional problem the past decade.
I know I've said it before, but a Police Salt would be the last pocket knife I'd need.ZrowsN1s wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:52 pmI think I've said it before, but a P4 LW Salt would suit me fine just fine. :DVivi wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:47 pmYeah that's why I stick with a Pacific Salt pretty much every day during the summer. Just oil the blade they say. Well what about the liners, locking mechanism, screws, clips....I've rusted those too haha.
I'm really glad they make the salt line. It's been really nice having rust be an optional problem the past decade.