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Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:16 am
by Sjucaveman
ThePeacent wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:11 am
oh :confused: I don't like a steel backspacer either.
Give me a non-corrodible spacer made of FRN, Plastic or other synthetic or a flow through design for easy cleaning any day...costs down, weight down, complexity down, maintenance down, all ups for me! :p
Sometimes the metal backspacer is more for balance and handling so frn wouldn't offer the same advantage. The shaman for instance needs the heavy backspacer to balance the knife.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:39 pm
by thewoodpecker
sal wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:28 am
thewoodpecker wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:05 pm
Any word on the FRN pattern for this one? Hoping it is like the UKPK without Bi-Directional texturing. Burnt Orange & Teal Zome would an interesting option.
Hi Woodpecker,

Sorry to disappoint. It is planned for the same bi-dIrectional texture as the Endura family.

sal
If that is the worst news I get all day I'll still consider it a good day. :D Looking forward to this and the LW Caly 3.5 (my favorite design to date).

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:37 pm
by Gevatter
Sjucaveman wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:16 am
ThePeacent wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:11 am
oh :confused: I don't like a steel backspacer either.
Give me a non-corrodible spacer made of FRN, Plastic or other synthetic or a flow through design for easy cleaning any day...costs down, weight down, complexity down, maintenance down, all ups for me! :p
Sometimes the metal backspacer is more for balance and handling so frn wouldn't offer the same advantage. The shaman for instance needs the heavy backspacer to balance the knife.

Balance was the reason of my concern and the wish for steel in the back, but with the thin stock and FFG it might work. The sabergrind Endura could definitely use one.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:05 pm
by Mystery Flavor
Since the new FRN versions will be lightweight you could bring back the Boyd dent and shave off a few more grams from the weight. :D Just a thought. I have the current G-10 P4 and I love it. It's probably my absolute favorite Spyderco I've ever had, but I can imagine slightly preferring the boyd dent on it.

Really great job on this design Sal! I can't wait to get my hands on 1 or more of the FRN versions, probably the ZDP-189 and K390 versions you had said were likely to be coming. It has been fun to learn more about your thoughts behind the model and K390 on this forum.

Like Vivi had said earlier, I'd vote for some of the K390 blades to be coated black with the DLC or TiCN? (I prefer DLC) I'd prefer that over a non-coated blade on K390.

Any update on these being released?? Could it be before 2019?
thanks

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:18 pm
by knivesandbooks
I'm still so excited for this.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:01 am
by Wanimator
Thanks for the perspective, Sal. I'll probably end up owning both the G-10 and FRN versions.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:55 am
by sal
Hi Gevatter,

Welcome to our forum.

sal

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:23 am
by koenigsegg
Gevatter wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:37 pm
Sjucaveman wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:16 am
ThePeacent wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:11 am
oh :confused: I don't like a steel backspacer either.
Give me a non-corrodible spacer made of FRN, Plastic or other synthetic or a flow through design for easy cleaning any day...costs down, weight down, complexity down, maintenance down, all ups for me! :p
Sometimes the metal backspacer is more for balance and handling so frn wouldn't offer the same advantage. The shaman for instance needs the heavy backspacer to balance the knife.

Balance was the reason of my concern and the wish for steel in the back, but with the thin stock and FFG it might work. The sabergrind Endura could definitely use one.
My biggest complaint about the Manix LW is the balance, feels like it wants to fall out of your hand

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:38 am
by Gevatter
Thank you Sal. I thought about drilling some holes in the backspacer and put weights in.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:49 pm
by Wanimator
Gevatter wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:38 am
Thank you Sal. I thought about drilling some holes in the backspacer and put weights in.
Lanyard?

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:26 am
by Gevatter
You mean with one of these bead sculptures? Would be an option as well but I don't want anything dangling on my knives.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:07 pm
by sal
Hi Wanimator,

Not really enough room for a lanyard hole. The handle for the Police model is really just am ergonomic wrapping of the blade.

Hey Gevatter,

One of my mentors (Colin Chapman) always said, "simplicate and add lightness".

sal

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:51 am
by Wanimator
sal wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:07 pm
Hi Wanimator,

Not really enough room for a lanyard hole. The handle for the Police model is really just am ergonomic wrapping of the blade.

Hey Gevatter,

One of my mentors (Colin Chapman) always said, "simplicate and add lightness".

sal
Thank you, I agree. I was replying suggesting it's use as a counterweight in lightweight knives.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:58 am
by Knife Knut
No room for a lanyard hole, but I imagine a custom or aftermarket lanyard bail or loop of some sort could be screwed into one or both sides of the scale using the unused clip screw holes. Depending on the design, it could still accommodate both tip up or tip down.

Something as simple as a a U shaped piece of wire with the ends pounded flat and drilled through for the (longer loctite'd) screws, for instance.

I, for one, am perfectly fine with FRN back spacer.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:27 am
by Gevatter
Wanimator wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:49 pm
Gevatter wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:38 am
Thank you Sal. I thought about drilling some holes in the backspacer and put weights in.
Lanyard?
Sorry, I was thinking about my sabergrind Endura. I love lightness as long as the balance is right.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:21 pm
by ladybug93
sal wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:05 pm
H1 & LC are always a possibility.

sal
:D

yes please!

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:41 pm
by vivi
If we ended up getting a rust proof FRN Police I wouldn't know what to think. I'd feel like I was still asleep, dreaming :D

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:03 pm
by Pelagic
Vivi wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:41 pm
If we ended up getting a rust proof FRN Police I wouldn't know what to think. I'd feel like I was still asleep, dreaming :D
I hear that. Just posting to show interest in an FRN Police 4 in LC200N.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:08 pm
by chrisjohn
Please put a large pocket clip like rhe military has; the lay flush when carried itwb.

Re: FRN Police 4

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:07 pm
by Cycletroll
Vivi wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:41 pm
If we ended up getting a rust proof FRN Police I wouldn't know what to think. I'd feel like I was still asleep, dreaming :D
Would be most excellent!