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V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Deadboxhero » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:58 pm

Share the love!

I started this thread for us to share our experiences with Sharpening and using Vtoku2 (V2) together here.

Join in


So far, I'm really liking the 1k Chosea Edge, V2 doesn't seem as aggressive as Super Blue but the edge should be more resistant to chiping.

After missing out on the SB Sprint I'm happy to have a steel that shares some attributes

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Strider » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:13 pm

If you really want some super blue, it is readily available in kitchen knives.

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Deadboxhero » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:36 pm

Strider wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:13 pm
If you really want some super blue, it is readily available in kitchen knives.
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Yup
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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby awa54 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:28 pm

Deadboxhero wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:36 pm
Strider wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:13 pm
If you really want some super blue, it is readily available in kitchen knives.
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Yup

...and I thought *my* knife bar was overkill :eek:
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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby The Mastiff » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:54 pm

Deadbox, I'll look to see if I still have any Superblue Enduras so you can run a comparison. If I have one put away I'll let you know.

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Deadboxhero » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:02 am

The Mastiff wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:54 pm
Deadbox, I'll look to see if I still have any Superblue Enduras so you can run a comparison. If I have one put away I'll let you know.

Joe
Joe, that would be radical.

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby shaztec » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:50 am

Patiently waiting for KC to fill my preorder from December....can't believe you guys already have them, after its posted it will still take 2-3 weeks to get here! Till then I'll be reading you guys posts in this thread :)
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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby WireEdge Roger » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:41 am

That patina looks great. I like the subtle change in grey along the lamination line. My Super Blue Endura looks similar. Looking forward to toting around some V-TOKU2, even though I swore off carbon steels in Indiana summers.

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Bloke » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:04 am

shaztec wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:50 am
Patiently waiting for KC to fill my preorder from December....can't believe you guys already have them, after its posted it will still take 2-3 weeks to get here! Till then I'll be reading you guys posts in this thread :)
Same! :)
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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Strider » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:46 am

Deadboxhero wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:36 pm
Strider wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:13 pm
If you really want some super blue, it is readily available in kitchen knives.
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Yup
I think i have the same masakage

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby sal » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:12 pm

Hey Shawn,

It's a steel that the Blade-smiths are using for forging.

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Deadboxhero » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:17 pm

Strider wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:46 am
Deadboxhero wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:36 pm
Strider wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:13 pm
If you really want some super blue, it is readily available in kitchen knives.
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Yup
I think i have the same masakage
Nah no masakage,

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Deadboxhero » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:58 pm

V-TOKU 2

This stuff is very edge tough,

However, it doesn't take the edge like white steel or Super Blue, those steels seem to have alot more "bite" or aggression at the edge at 1000 grit.

It still gets just as sharp just not with the same aggressiveness

reminds me of 52100 with a subtle amount more "bite."



The hardness "feels" like 63 hrc on the stones and with use, but that's just speculation, it would be nice to hear Sal chime in and give us an idea of what they went for.

V2 Deburrs like a champion.

This steel is alot tougher then white steel even at high hardness

So far the 1000 grit range has been my favorite finish.

This stuff should be GOLD to people that love to strop there edges to maintain them.

Very very responsive to stroping, I'd imagine one could keep a reasonable amount of sharpeness going for a long while with a properly set bevel, a fine ceramic and a 1um strop.


In use, I hit a metal poll inside the box when breaking down the cardboard package.

Checked the edge, nothing. I was impressed, so I whacked it on some stainless steel, aluminum, cut and stabed a aluminum can. No observable damage, very cool.
Subtile hesitation on cutting newspaper but no snags.

Stropped it on 1um diamond compound on leather.

BOOM
Back to screaming sharp.

I likey.

It's 0.018" out of the box.

For reference a tenacious is 0.017" and a Shaman is 0.026"

I'm already at 0.019" from about 6 Sharpenings to find what finish I like.

I'd say the spec sheet isn't very intense or sexy as far as people wanting insane attributes. But insane performance is always insane comprise.

Besides steel chemistry and Rockwell hardness isn't always the ultimate decider in high performance.

The take away so far is that we get more toughness then similar japanese carbon steel at similar hardness and we get more versatility in abrasive selection since we don't need high power stones to cut high speed steel.

I feel the steel is best with a medium grit to high polish on a alumina based waterstone. It's a joy to sharpen.


I think people will be very satisfied in practice with V-TOKU 2 on a folder.

It's got a great blend of hard use and knife sharpener favor to it
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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Bloke » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:24 pm

Great write up Shawn! :cool:

Still patiently waiting for my pre order to ship, particularly the Stretch. :)
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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby DirtMcGirt » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:39 pm

Tracking says mine should be here tomorrow :D
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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Cycletroll » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:17 pm

Thanks for the review Shawn! Appreciate the beta on Rivers Edge too! Able to get a couple Endura inbound since my KC pre-orders are in limbo.

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby rybu0305 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:18 pm

shaztec wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:50 am
Patiently waiting for KC to fill my preorder from December....can't believe you guys already have them, after its posted it will still take 2-3 weeks to get here! Till then I'll be reading you guys posts in this thread :)
I’m in the same boat. Usually KC gets knives pretty quick. I got my Caribbean promptly after they dropped.
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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby sal » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:55 am

Thanx shawn,

Another sick edge junky :p

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby Deadboxhero » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:21 am

sal wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:55 am
Thanx shawn,

Another sick edge junky :p

sal
Haha thanks Sal, it's always great to play with the new japanese sprints.
Cheers!

May I ask what the hardness came out too?

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Re: V-TOKU 2 Love

Postby awa54 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:23 pm

Mine appeared in the mailbox today, I really dig the color, but I haven't had a chance to sharpen it...

I think I might wind up actually liking the Endura quite a bit, I usually go for 3" and under blades, but the fact that I *really* like the Military had convinced me that I needed to try one eventually. It certainly won't kick the various smaller Spydies out of my pocket on work days, but it just might steal some pocket time from the Manix crew and Military on yard work days.

Tomorrow evening I hope to take the Hapstone to it, I'll do the full bonded diamond progression at 15 DPS all the way to 2k/1 micron polish for starters, then if for some reason that doesn't produce good results I'll try a natural stone or ceramic as the finisher. It's not half bad right out of the box...
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