AFI Performance Flash Batch

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AFI Performance Flash Batch Yes or No?

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby tvenuto » Wed May 30, 2018 1:44 pm

I believe they did actually finish the Hap40 models with a thinner grind. It was probably slight but I remember reading about it. (Rex 45 is supposedly similar, is why this is relevant)

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby koenigsegg » Wed May 30, 2018 2:08 pm

I wish Sal would chime in, guessing he's getting ready for Blade
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby tvenuto » Wed May 30, 2018 2:15 pm

Ha yea at some point we have to realize that, as cool as it is he finds time to talk to us, he does have to keep driving Spyderco forward. If he only talked to us the ideas would get implemented as fast as if he never did.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby xceptnl » Wed May 30, 2018 5:45 pm

ZrowsN1s wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 11:54 am
The mid year just dropped. What about a thinned out Rex 45 model?
Now you're talking.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby xceptnl » Wed May 30, 2018 5:48 pm

This thread got me to thinking about comparing apples to apples. I started looking through my collection and found a great donor candidate to be thinned for comparison, FFG JD Smith. If I can find a member with a user factory model (or one that has already been reground) I would be willing to sponsor a pass around. This means the other volunteer would need to be equally as willing.
Anyone interested please quote me here and message me for further details.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby xceptnl » Wed May 30, 2018 7:20 pm

SO tonight I needed to get to work on a project I am in charge of (VBS creative director) and that means I needed sets. I wander to the basement and set up my cutting station where I am making improvised boards for a half-pipe. Anyway, I have about 200' of 3/4" rigid foam insulation to rip through. Reach for my trust Cruwear Mule that continues to ride on my hip, nearly everyday since the fixed blade edc challenge thread from November. I make it through the first 4' cut, but quickly realize the blade stock length is wedging in the rigid media. I also noted the edge was not as sharp as it could be and therefore I reached for the Maxamet Manix 2 that I carried as well today knowing it had a razor sharp and fresh edge. Before my thumb could find the spydiehole, I saw the problem again, I needed thinner stock.
Walking upstairs I made my way to where my Phil Wilson is kept, then I also noticed that it still might be too thick. As I looked past the tip of the blade, I saw my 4" K05 Paring knife. Remembering that Sal did talk about opening packages with a kitchen knife and the discussions of this thread gave me a big smile.
200' later without a resharpen or touchup.... the project is done and this is the tool for the job. Thinner blade stock for slicing purposes is not a pipe dream. The knife is barely a usable edge now, but it still worked.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Evil D » Wed May 30, 2018 7:23 pm

In my youth I did things with my mother's kitchen knives that some people wouldn't dare doing with a proper fixed blade, and those knives were all probably less than 2mm. They were also really soft/flexible steels though.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby ZrowsN1s » Wed May 30, 2018 10:33 pm

xceptnl wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 7:20 pm
....
200' later without a resharpen or touchup.... the project is done and this is the tool for the job. Thinner blade stock for slicing purposes is not a pipe dream. The knife is barely a usable edge now, but it still worked.
Great post :D
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Calicoast » Thu May 31, 2018 12:26 am

Voted yes - but I could be a little biased.
This thread needs some regrind pics. :)

Own (4) PM2's:

(2) Cruwear + S35VN:
Enjoy these knifes for harder use around the home, hiking or camping. Toughness, corrosion resistance, sharpen ability, etc. I feel these knives serve their intended purposes, and I keep them sharp at 15/30 inclusive on the sharpmaker. Overall, very happy with their performance.

(2) CPM-M4 + M390:
Both with Krein Regrinds. Oh man, do these knives slice. You can definitely tell the difference between a factory and thinned out edge. Spyderco leaving it thick behind the edge is understandable, but I like it thin. Mainly I use these knives as my edc around the house, light to medium use, not seen any chipping yet. -C
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby AccountDeletedUserRequest » Thu May 31, 2018 2:25 am

I put thinner edges on every PE knife I buy. It'd be nice not having to once in a while. I could go for thinner stock and FFG on saber ground models I carry as well, both for cutting performance and to trim weight.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Tdog » Thu May 31, 2018 3:01 am

Love to see a Ti Millie with thinned S110V, M390, or other stainless.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby HarleyXJGuy » Thu May 31, 2018 4:24 am

Yes.

I would buy all models.

So much win with this idea.

Can’t see it happening because lawyers and law suits are a thing.
On my radar: 110V Military, Police 4 and some sweet Rex 45 Military action.

Newest Spydies: S90v Ti Military, Pacific Salt and a special Kiwi.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Evil D » Thu May 31, 2018 4:31 am

HarleyXJGuy wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 4:24 am
Yes.

I would buy all models.

So much win with this idea.

Can’t see it happening because lawyers and law suits are a thing.

It's all about the disclaimer. I doubt anyone is suing Opinel if they break a blade.

Speaking of Opinel, if anyone wants to try a thin blade for cheap they can be had for less than $20 and are possibly the best slicing knives available for the price.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby ThePeacent » Thu May 31, 2018 8:05 am

Evil D wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 4:31 am
HarleyXJGuy wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 4:24 am
Yes.

I would buy all models.

So much win with this idea.

Can’t see it happening because lawyers and law suits are a thing.

It's all about the disclaimer. I doubt anyone is suing Opinel if they break a blade.

Speaking of Opinel, if anyone wants to try a thin blade for cheap they can be had for less than $20 and are possibly the best slicing knives available for the price.

just look at some videos of Opinel use (and abuse!) on YouTube
They take a beating, bend, twist, and do horrible things without breaking :eek:

imagine now modern steels, grinds with the current knowledge applied to them, etc. :rolleyes:

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby dj moonbat » Thu May 31, 2018 8:10 am

Vivi wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 2:25 am
I put thinner edges on every PE knife I buy. It'd be nice not having to once in a while. I could go for thinner stock and FFG on saber ground models I carry as well, both for cutting performance and to trim weight.
Is this with a belt sander?

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Evil D » Thu May 31, 2018 8:58 am

Vivi wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 2:25 am
I put thinner edges on every PE knife I buy. It'd be nice not having to once in a while. I could go for thinner stock and FFG on saber ground models I carry as well, both for cutting performance and to trim weight.


There is an ocean of difference between a thinner edge bevel and a thinner blade grind ;)
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby xceptnl » Thu May 31, 2018 9:55 am

Evil D wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 8:58 am
Vivi wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 2:25 am
I put thinner edges on every PE knife I buy. It'd be nice not having to once in a while. I could go for thinner stock and FFG on saber ground models I carry as well, both for cutting performance and to trim weight.


There is an ocean of difference between a thinner edge bevel and a thinner blade grind ;)
Precisely. I would venture to bet money that an Opinel with a 25dps will cut far better than a factory Millie with a 17 or even 12 dps edge.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby gundamaniac » Thu May 31, 2018 10:29 am

My Opinel is the meanest (folding) slicer I own. I'm constantly impressed by its cutting performance especially relative to its price point.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby AccountDeletedUserRequest » Thu May 31, 2018 12:53 pm

Evil D wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 8:58 am
Vivi wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 2:25 am
I put thinner edges on every PE knife I buy. It'd be nice not having to once in a while. I could go for thinner stock and FFG on saber ground models I carry as well, both for cutting performance and to trim weight.


There is an ocean of difference between a thinner edge bevel and a thinner blade grind ;)
Thanks sherlock :rolleyes: point is if the knives were thinner I wouldn't have to spend my time making them thinner by hand.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby AccountDeletedUserRequest » Thu May 31, 2018 12:54 pm

xceptnl wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 9:55 am
Evil D wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 8:58 am
Vivi wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 2:25 am
I put thinner edges on every PE knife I buy. It'd be nice not having to once in a while. I could go for thinner stock and FFG on saber ground models I carry as well, both for cutting performance and to trim weight.


There is an ocean of difference between a thinner edge bevel and a thinner blade grind ;)
Precisely. I would venture to bet money that an Opinel with a 25dps will cut far better than a factory Millie with a 17 or even 12 dps edge.
A Millie with a 10DPS edge will outcut Opinels in most materials. I've EDC'd both.


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